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I couldn't imagine the ladies in that office lying... doooontcha knooow!
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
(Post 679085)
Hi!
My buddy says (and I know) that it is night and day compared with TSA. I think if you are interviewed in the next few months, and hired, 90% chance you will upgrade in about a year, if you meet the mins and will take the least popular base. They guys who are there now, have been there for the worst...things will not be the same 6 months from now, as they were 6 months ago, not even close. One the other hand, they will NOT interview me, and I won't get hired. If they wanted me, they would have already called. No DAL for me! On to plan Z. cliff NBO |
Originally Posted by flycrj200
(Post 679198)
So what do you think will happen to Compass if Delta furlough a bunch of pilots after SOC in 2010?
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So for those who have gotten a call for an interview, how long did it take from the time you applied online to receiving the call? It sounds like if you applied months ago and havent heard anything yet, chances are you arent going to get a shot... Thanks
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Originally Posted by EmbraerFlyer
(Post 678916)
You totally missed my point. You are always in a rush to defend any and everything about Compass, both just and unjust. You are so blinded by the fact that this regional is slightly better than your last 2 or three regional that you go as far and defend the same injustices that was and done to you at you last company. I was making the point that Compass is the worst for new hires due to the fact that you have to do a full 30 days of ground school for 18.5 hours of pay at $23.67 per hour. You totally missed the point that new hires are required to pay for their own housing due to the fact that they company is making all new hires MPS based to avoid hotel cost and and soon as they are done they go straight to DTW or MEM.
I understand that for you, you experience at Compass has been more than pleasant becasue you probably came in straight to a CA spot or was awared a CA spot in 6 months or less, but you need to come back to reality. For you to come on here and paint this pretty picture of Compass, you are doing an great deal injustice to those that are not in the know. That is one of thr problem eith this industry and the the state that it is in now. The guys that came before you telling you how awesome everthing is and then you found out the truth for yourself. I'm sure when you were are Comair, Skyway, and Elsewhere you were the bottom and say the Company for what it really is. You built up the courage to leave for whatever reason but Im sure if someone senior to you at the time defended all the flaws of Comair, Skyway and Wherever then you would think to yourself, "man this guy is out of touch." You have become that senior captain you despised for allowing the injustice to continue, at least that's how I see it.. I'm not saying you have to be negative all the time but just tell it like it is. Tell the truth. There are more flaws at Compass than all of us would like to see, but dont paint this picture that everything is ok and the things that are'nt then you shouldn't expect it to be any better because you are at a regional. By the trend of your post on this site and on Compasspilot, I can tell you are going to miss the point of this message. No one could ever say something bad about you little baby Compass, Oberon to the rescue...This isnt a personal attack, just pointing out the fact that you defend any and everything about Compass. Both Just and Unjust. Show some justice for once You pointed out that Compass doesn't pay for a hotel during training and only pays 18.5 for the 30 day home course. This sucks, but you know what sucks more? Being unemployed! And right now Mesa, TSA, Colgan, and CommuteAir can't help anyone who is unemployed because they aren't hiring...Mesa and TSA have over 300 on the street, I bet some of them would be happy to get hired by Compass. GoJet is hiring, but they don't pay for a hotel either. The contract isn't going to change until it is amendable, so for the time being people are going to have to pay for a place to stay in MSP. I wish it weren't like that, but it is and I'm certainly not trying to hide it. I personally don't care who is hired at Compass or why they took the job. I'd like to see Cliff hired because I think he's a pretty good guy who's had some bad luck. He's flying in Africa right now on a 180 day trip! That sucks! I don't know about you, but I complain about four day trips that go to EWR...180 days in Africa is multitudes worse! |
Hi!
Actually, it is turning into a 270 day trip, probably. Good news is probably will be moved from NBO to DBX soon. I did not interview at NWA. Tried, but my monthly average flying hours since I got my student license are very low, for a variety of reasons, and that was a big factor in the NWA hiring matrix. I was going to get a couple of friends to help me when NWA was changing their process to allow recommendations, but then they stopped hiring (same for SWA and FedEx). Through blind luck (met a senior DAL captain on a ski trip), I got a DAL interview in 1991. I had about 1700 hours TT. The next lowest guy in my group had about 7000. One guy had 17000 PIC jet in a 727 from Pan Am. I was kind of the low time guy, and didn't get hired. From what I here, no chance at DAL intervew again...too bad for me! Just updated at Emirates (hiring in Oct, what I heard), and will apply at Qatar soon. I think my freind will stay at Compass, vs. going back to Spirit. I think he will be capt before Spirit recalls. It is too uncertain to tell when the next DAL furloughs will take place, but it will probably be 7-9 years from now. I think guys will start to flow up to DAL in about 6 months, unless the pilot group is merged into DAL first. cliff NBO PS-I think my chances of a Compass interview are about 1%. |
Originally Posted by atpcliff
(Post 679293)
Hi!
Actually, it is turning into a 270 day trip, probably. Good news is probably will be moved from NBO to DBX soon. I did not interview at NWA. Tried, but my monthly average flying hours since I got my student license are very low, for a variety of reasons, and that was a big factor in the NWA hiring matrix. I was going to get a couple of friends to help me when NWA was changing their process to allow recommendations, but then they stopped hiring (same for SWA and FedEx). Through blind luck (met a senior DAL captain on a ski trip), I got a DAL interview in 1991. I had about 1700 hours TT. The next lowest guy in my group had about 7000. One guy had 17000 PIC jet in a 727 from Pan Am. I was kind of the low time guy, and didn't get hired. From what I here, no chance at DAL intervew again...too bad for me! Just updated at Emirates (hiring in Oct, what I heard), and will apply at Qatar soon. I think my freind will stay at Compass, vs. going back to Spirit. I think he will be capt before Spirit recalls. It is too uncertain to tell when the next DAL furloughs will take place, but it will probably be 7-9 years from now. I think guys will start to flow up to DAL in about 6 months, unless the pilot group is merged into DAL first. cliff NBO PS-I think my chances of a Compass interview are about 1%. As far as the Delta flow, I wouldn't count on it starting that soon. The best information available now has Delta overstaffed through winter and properly staffed next summer. If there is any hiccup in the economy there won't be a reason to carry-on overstaffed and furloughs or at least stagnation would result. I think the biggest staffing issue in the next year will be the new crew rest and duty time rules. From early reports I'm guessing regional airlines will need more bodies and majors will need fewer (though major contracts will likely still be the limiting factor). Either way DTW sounds a lot better than DBX.:) |
Originally Posted by Oberon
(Post 679345)
Either way DTW sounds a lot better than DBX.:) |
A tad off topic, but what are the Compass crew bases?
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Originally Posted by 8nSand
(Post 680919)
A tad off topic, but what are the Compass crew bases?
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Originally Posted by Oberon
(Post 679345)
Either way DTW sounds a lot better than DBX.:)
I wouldn't go THAT far. At Emirates, as an FO, you'll make about 7,000 USD per month not counting your per diem, you'll also have your housing paid for (imagine THAT in the U.S.), and you'll fly brand-spanking new equipment with your FA's all being in their 20's and great looking if you're single... Also, in DBX, you don't need kevlar or be armed... unlike DTW. ;) |
Question to Compass pilots, out of what base do the reserves fly the most right now, MSP, MEM or DTW? Looks like MEM has the best trips PHX, BOS layovers as well but do you guys in MSP ever get up there. Also I hear there are not very many reserves in Memphis compared to DTW and MSP.
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 680985)
I wouldn't go THAT far.
At Emirates, as an FO, you'll make about 7,000 USD per month not counting your per diem, you'll also have your housing paid for (imagine THAT in the U.S.), and you'll fly brand-spanking new equipment with your FA's all being in their 20's and great looking if you're single... Also, in DBX, you don't need kevlar or be armed... unlike DTW. ;) |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 684239)
Yes, but you have to live in Dubai. At least when based in DTW you can live somewhere far away from downtown, and be close to family.
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 684240)
Or you can bring family with you, live on the beach, have the company pay for your kids' private school... and make more than poverty wage. ;)
Hope all is well for anyone in the sandbox. To each their own. Cheers:) |
What is the news on Compass hiring? Do you have to have a few internal recommendations to wade through the sea of online applications? Is the 1000ME a must? Are there any scheduled interviews or training class?
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 680985)
Also, in DBX, you don't need kevlar or be armed... unlike DTW. ;) |
Originally Posted by Squawk_5543
(Post 684579)
That's maybe the dumbest thing I've seen on here for a while. Next.
NEXT! |
I'll have a sense of humor again when we aren't in the process of furloughing half our pilot group.
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Is Compass hiring??
Was this most recent class the last one? Sent in an online resume and havent heard a peep...I dont have the 1000me but i do have the 1500tt.
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Originally Posted by billyjay
(Post 685040)
Was this most recent class the last one? Sent in an online resume and havent heard a peep...I dont have the 1000me but i do have the 1500tt.
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I noticed that APC has listed the mins as 2500 TT with 1000 PIC.
Did they raise the mins? According to the Compass website it is still 1500 TT and 1000 Multi. |
You Compass guys picked up a great scheduler from Northwest. This particular scheduler didn't want to make the move to ATL so said scheduler got a job with Compass. I'm not being sarcastic, she is really nice. :)
I was sad to see her go. |
That's great news. Wasn't sure there'd be any NW people willing to come over for our pay, was worried we'd be dragging the dregs of the Mpls/St Paul unemployment lines.
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Hey guys I need a crash pad near the msp training center. Anyone have any info?
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 691921)
You Compass guys picked up a great scheduler from Northwest. This particular scheduler didn't want to make the move to ATL so said scheduler got a job with Compass. I'm not being sarcastic, she is really nice. :)
I was sad to see her go. |
MSP crashpad anyone???
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
(Post 692260)
MSP crashpad anyone???
Try the Mesaba thread...... |
Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
(Post 692260)
MSP crashpad anyone???
check your messages |
I have a room to rent, not really a crashpad though, good for guys in training or looking to move
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Job Fair
Some of you may have seen the info on the Safety Seminar and Pilot Job Fair to be held near LGA next month. Looks like Compass and JetBlue will be there. Can someone tell me what they are doing?? Are they, specifically Compass, seriously hiring people at these things? To go would require $100 for the seminar and job fair, in addition to atleast 1, maybe 2 nights at a hotel. I'm estimating a cost of $400 to commute in and attend this. Compass has held a couple of job fairs in the past and no one has really talked about them on here. So... can someone answer.. what's the scoop, what's really going on, and what is Compass realistically looking for in a candidate at one of these things.
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Originally Posted by heading180
(Post 692940)
Some of you may have seen the info on the Safety Seminar and Pilot Job Fair to be held near LGA next month. Looks like Compass and JetBlue will be there. Can someone tell me what they are doing?? Are they, specifically Compass, seriously hiring people at these things? To go would require $100 for the seminar and job fair, in addition to atleast 1, maybe 2 nights at a hotel. I'm estimating a cost of $400 to commute in and attend this. Compass has held a couple of job fairs in the past and no one has really talked about them on here. So... can someone answer.. what's the scoop, what's really going on, and what is Compass realistically looking for in a candidate at one of these things.
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Do they conduct interviews on the spot? If one were to decide to go would it be appropriate to expect them to sit down with me and fire off some systems questions, brief some apph plates etc, ya know, typical interview gouge items....??
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Hi!
What is JetBlue doing there??? cliff NBO |
Originally Posted by heading180
(Post 693222)
Do they conduct interviews on the spot? If one were to decide to go would it be appropriate to expect them to sit down with me and fire off some systems questions, brief some apph plates etc, ya know, typical interview gouge items....??
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Well Compass will be in a unique situation when the industry starts to turn around. Hopefully they are using fore thought to prepare for this.
1. We have very high time pilots on average for a regional. Remember when you require ATP mins and 1000 multi to hire a new fo that they will likely be able to get another job when things turn around. Also we have a VERY large # of refugees from other airlines with 5- 10k hours or more. Many of these are in the right seat too and looking for the next Real job and dont need an upgrade to move on. 2. When Delta does start to hire (one Day) we will already have our max # of flow's ready and eligible. So if they even hire 1 class of 20 pilots it would wipe out 11% of our CA's immediately and if they hire 2 classes well then you looking at almost 25% of our CA's gone...probably at the same time other companies will be hiring our FO's So if they are smart they better keep their finger on the trigger because Compass is in a unique situation when it comes to staffing....for what its worth |
Why would an FO leave Compass if the hiring has started? That FO doesn't have to interview to get hired at Delta.... unless of course that FO can't stand working for mainline Delta.
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Originally Posted by XtremeF150
(Post 699236)
Well Compass will be in a unique situation when the industry starts to turn around. Hopefully they are using fore thought to prepare for this.
1. We have very high time pilots on average for a regional. Remember when you require ATP mins and 1000 multi to hire a new fo that they will likely be able to get another job when things turn around. Also we have a VERY large # of refugees from other airlines with 5- 10k hours or more. Many of these are in the right seat too and looking for the next Real job and dont need an upgrade to move on. 2. When Delta does start to hire (one Day) we will already have our max # of flow's ready and eligible. So if they even hire 1 class of 20 pilots it would wipe out 11% of our CA's immediately and if they hire 2 classes well then you looking at almost 25% of our CA's gone...probably at the same time other companies will be hiring our FO's So if they are smart they better keep their finger on the trigger because Compass is in a unique situation when it comes to staffing....for what its worth |
Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
(Post 699314)
That's some great sugar coating...unless you want to add in the part where Delta flows back to Compass and everybody sitting in a seat at Compass gets furloughed or downgraded.
its less likely to happen now than ever before amd every month that goes by makes it even less likely. |
Originally Posted by XtremeF150
(Post 699236)
Well Compass will be in a unique situation when the industry starts to turn around. Hopefully they are using fore thought to prepare for this.
1. We have very high time pilots on average for a regional. Remember when you require ATP mins and 1000 multi to hire a new fo that they will likely be able to get another job when things turn around. Also we have a VERY large # of refugees from other airlines with 5- 10k hours or more. Many of these are in the right seat too and looking for the next Real job and dont need an upgrade to move on. 2. When Delta does start to hire (one Day) we will already have our max # of flow's ready and eligible. So if they even hire 1 class of 20 pilots it would wipe out 11% of our CA's immediately and if they hire 2 classes well then you looking at almost 25% of our CA's gone...probably at the same time other companies will be hiring our FO's So if they are smart they better keep their finger on the trigger because Compass is in a unique situation when it comes to staffing....for what its worth |
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