About 200...

Best estimate between now and the end of next year I would say should be about 400 new hires. est. 150+ flows, 20 additional aircraft (maybe about another 180-200 people) and any other attrition (have to say at least 40-50).

CP operated for the first 5-6 years of operation with about that number. It will be interesting for the people there.

Great movement always means very short staffed! But people on property now will be mid grade CAs mid next year. (FO I just flew with bids top 10 in LA and he got online in Feb)

I was curious how many days per month FO line holders are typically working at LAX to get to guarantee. Is there much opportunity to pick up hours over guarantee?

19 days on 12 off 89 hours credit this month holding a line. Definitely plenty of opportunities to pick up flying. It's a buyer's market ;)

there were 167 left around july 1

list went from 527 to 494 some time in the last week. Congrats flow guys! Hope to see you at mainline!

Bidding top 25% for August. 92 credit hours, 12 off. 89 hours block.

Bidding 19% for Sept. We shall see.

In DTW when I bid top 50% as a FO I'd get 90 and 14-16 off. We did longer legs than LAX does though.

Thanks for the reply. Lots of good info on here. Seems like a great place to be. Are there any rumors of future delta flows starting up again? Or was that flow a one time deal?

The flows that are slated to go will go, and be gone, by this time next year ... or maybe closer to the fall of next year. Either way they're more than likely won't be any more flows after that. The guys on property when sold to TSA are the ones flowing. Guys hired after that (July 2010) will not flow. I very very very highly doubt delta will agree to additional flows than to those who already have these rights.

Ya'll get a guaranteed Delta interview though right? Is that something that you think will stick around with the new American flying? Or is it something that Delta is extending, but can revoke, like the the Endeavor EtD?

yes, as of now we get guaranteed interviews. Who knows if that will change since we are doing flying for AA now. We haven't heard anything about that. I don't know if Delta can take it away at any time. Someone else may know that answer.

I was 37% for August and got that as well. 12 off, 89 credit and had recurrent thrown in there as well.

When would you expect the first interview to take place for this group? Sometime next fall after the last flow leaves, did they give us any sort of timeline on how many will interview each week/month/year?

I haven't heard anything about how or when those interviews will start. I assume there will be more info coming about this time next year about that....if the agreement is still in place. I thought about asking the union for more info on that.

I wouldn't count on anything at this point it's strictly a word of mouth deal that our chief and who knows at DAL agreed too. We have no LOA and nothing in writing saying that this actually exist other than the fact that it's something they dangle as a carrot. I've tried for the last year to get a formal answer about the stipulations of when and if this will ever take place, I've never been given a fully reasonable answer...

So when someone talks about bidding in the top xx%, is that just an indicator of how far up the seniority list you are as a FO or CA? So top 25% means you are in the top fourth of seniority for bidding?

Yes, it's your relative seniority in base.

For example at Compass right now, a top 10% LAXFO would probably be 40% as an MSPFO and probably 60% as a DTWFO.

Is lax fully manned right now? Wonder how much attrition will happen there with msp and dtw being so much more senior.

In the short term yea, long term no with the 20 AA planes coming. MSP will stay senior especially if another west coast base opens and they close DTW

Does anyone have any contact information for HR? I'm really trying to get on board but can't seem to catch anyone's attention.

Go to a job fair, call a friend who works here but cold calling them won't do much I would imagine. Last I heard it is still primarily former 121 guys. What is your experience?

So lax is official for the aa flying?

Yes
Filller

Official as in they said the initial flying will be out of there, but there hasn't been any additional pilot bids for it yet.

Of course there hasn't, the flying doesn't start until Feb/March.

Are any new hires in class seeing MSP or DTW if they want, or literally everyone headed to LAX out of class these days?

prefaced with I haven't started class yet but I think everyone is headed LAX for the foreseeable future.

Got a an email a couple days after I applied. Didn't call or go to a job fair.

Nice! Congrats! What are your quals? Previous experience?

135 Tprop and ATP written.

Currently at a 121 carrier

found this one on the web....






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Notice the date... And the spelling...

That was a spoof, on April Fools Day, Hulas would never let one of his cash cows go...

That's funny. Too bad Endeavor is a wholly owned subsidiary of Delta. Wholly owned companies can't go around buying up other companies. Delta would be the one doing it if anything. Plus, like someone else said...TSH would never let go of Compass.

Sure they can. They just need stockholder approval for a large purchase just like any other corporation, per their corporate by-laws of course. In this case, there is only 1 stockholder. Just because they're wholly owned, doesn't prevent them from making a purchase.

Your missing the point...who are the shareholders of Endeavor? For any approval of Endeavor to purchase CZ, it would have to be approved by the shareholders and the Board of Directors at Delta...

You missed my point. AlaskaBound said Endeavor can't. They can.

Also, I did say they only had 1 stockholder.

Really, the point is it will not happen. It could, but it won't...at least not for a long time....hopefully........