Here is the DAL scope as regards to large RJ's (i.e. "permitted types").

A maximum of 255 51-70 seat jets may be operated by DCI.

Within that 255, the company may operate 120 with 71-76 seat jets and a MGTOW less than 86,000 lbs(the original CPZ birds are exempt from the weight limit, but any new airframes must comply). The company may operate 3 more 71-76 seat airframes for each mainline aircraft (N) added above the fleet baseline.

They are in compliance and are operating 153 71-76 seat airframes and cannot add any more 71-76 seat jets until they are actively operating 30+ more mainline airframes.

The addition of the Skywest, Shuttle Am., and CPZ 51-70 seaters (66 really) puts the company within about 15 of the max number of permitted jets. They CANNOT add any more 76 seats, only the 66 seat jets are allowed.

So how did Lee Moak, WHO WASN'T EVEN THE MEC CHAIRMAN when this was shoved down the Delta Pilots' throats in bankruptcy, cause this problem? (and they still managed to put a cap on the # of jets)

During the merger, when Lee Moak was the DALPA MEC chair, the joint contract scope reduced the total number of 70/76 seat jets to less than what were permitted at DAL and NWA combined before the merger.....That looks like a scope victory to me. Not a huge victory, but a win nonetheless.

The better question is: How well UAL and USAirways do in bankruptcy WRT large RJ scope?

 

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The better question is: How is Compass going to staff these jets? Training is jammed with recurrets, new hires and upgrades. The FAA is up their a$$es about the program as is and the first jet comes on May.

 

Just for the record Lee Moak wasn't around on the Red side when Compass was formed nor was Compass formed at Delta but rather Northwest. Ironic that I had just came back from furlough and my wife had just gotten her "Even though we invited you to a class we are now NOT inviting you anymore" letter from NWA, Compass was just ramping up.
Not defending DALPA nor Moak but just wanted to set the record straight.

 

Explain why Compass wasn't merged with Nwa and Dal? That would've helped all our situations out a lot!

 

After watching the Republic captains end up above Frontier captains, I am glad Compass was not merged with Delta.

 

Since Flow-Through language was already in place and one MEC represented all parties, the outcome would have been much different.

 

In the spirit of Charlie Sheen perhaps Moak's signature should be 'WINNING'. Bottom line, he did jack to help contain the cancer of large rj's especially en lite of management needing the merger. If Unical pilots try to make mass scope reduction a strike able item it wouldn't shock me if mediator puts us on ice ala APA. Every large RJ added hurts our cause in the war to bring things in house. Thanks again Lee. Hope you enjoy all those steaks at Capital Grille.

 

There gona be out of business way before they ever get a chance to take them seats...oil prices will make sure of that

 

Let us not forget that while Delta is adding some RJ's it is also parking a large number...including a little more than half the fleet at Comair, putting those folks out of work. The overall DCI fleet is shrinking. Delta has also put out an RFP for a new 100 seat narrow body. I am not discounting the importance of scope, but at least things are moving in the right direction.