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Old 03-02-2011 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Let us not forget that while Delta is adding some RJ's it is also parking a large number...including a little more than half the fleet at Comair, putting those folks out of work. The overall DCI fleet is shrinking. Delta has also put out an RFP for a new 100 seat narrow body. I am not discounting the importance of scope, but at least things are moving in the right direction.
Trust me we haven't. Plenty of us Comair folks have come to Compass to seek refuge. 80% of my class alone was from Comair.
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Old 03-02-2011 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Let us not forget that while Delta is adding some RJ's it is also parking a large number...including a little more than half the fleet at Comair, putting those folks out of work.
From 170 to 44 is indeed a little more than half.
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Old 03-02-2011 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Let us not forget that while Delta is adding some RJ's it is also parking a large number...including a little more than half the fleet at Comair, putting those folks out of work. The overall DCI fleet is shrinking. Delta has also put out an RFP for a new 100 seat narrow body. I am not discounting the importance of scope, but at least things are moving in the right direction.
I'm not sure I agree, getting more of the big RJs at the Regional level is not good for this industry no matter how many turbo props and old 200s are parked. Is the net reduction at the regional level from the turbo props or the 200's?
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Old 03-03-2011 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Let us not forget that while Delta is adding some RJ's it is also parking a large number...including a little more than half the fleet at Comair, putting those folks out of work. The overall DCI fleet is shrinking. Delta has also put out an RFP for a new 100 seat narrow body. I am not discounting the importance of scope, but at least things are moving in the right direction.
Wow..I'm speechless
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Old 03-03-2011 | 06:02 AM
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Guys, the point Im making is that there was a time when Delta was adding RJ's and signing contracts with almost every regional in the industry, all the while parking its own jets and furloughing lots of pilots. Today, just the opposite is occurring...thats all Im trying to say. Im not in favor of or suggesting loading up on E170's at any one of the many DCI carriers is a good thing. Someone made a comment about Lee Moak basically selling out Delta pilots in favor of RJ growth. And my response to it with my comment was pointing out that A.) lots of guys/gals at Comair are losing their jobs and B.) Delta is looking to add new narrow body lift that would probably reclaim the flying that alot of the large RJ's have been performing as of late.
Jay, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree if you still do. And Tim, speech?
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Old 03-03-2011 | 06:05 AM
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I'm not sure I agree, getting more of the big RJs at the Regional level is not good for this industry no matter how many turbo props and old 200s are parked. Is the net reduction at the regional level from the turbo props or the 200's?
Jay, the net reduction is most certainly from 50 seat regional jets. The only turbo props flown at DCI other than SKW which is all at risk, I believe are the Saabs here at Mesaba which are on their way out as we speak. The rest are coming from a very large pull down at Comair and I believe another large portion were removed with the whole Mesa lawsuit. And once again, Im not suggesting large RJ's are a good thing, but I will submit that a total fleet of 255 large RJ's is better than 500 small RJ's.
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Old 03-03-2011 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tim123
Wow..I'm speechless
I believe Tin is referring to the RFP that Delta gave to the manufactures for a new mainline jet. You read his post as a RFP to the regionals.
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Old 03-03-2011 | 08:57 AM
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Duplicate......
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Old 03-03-2011 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
In the spirit of Charlie Sheen perhaps Moak's signature should be 'WINNING'. Bottom line, he did jack to help contain the cancer of large rj's especially en lite of management needing the merger. If Unical pilots try to make mass scope reduction a strike able item it wouldn't shock me if mediator puts us on ice ala APA. Every large RJ added hurts our cause in the war to bring things in house. Thanks again Lee. Hope you enjoy all those steaks at Capital Grille.
Once again, doesn't UAL scope allow unlimited 70 seat jets, while CAL allows unlimited 70 seat turboprops & 50 seat jets? I think you dug your own hole. Quit pointing the finger at DAL, & worry about cleaning up your own mess.

And BTW, DAL's CURRENT scope agreement was in place BEFORE the UAL/CAL merger was even announced!!! Large RJ/turboprop scope at DAL has been reduced over the last several years. Has the same occured at UAL/CAL?
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Old 03-03-2011 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jayray2
I'm not sure I agree, getting more of the big RJs at the Regional level is not good for this industry no matter how many turbo props and old 200s are parked. Is the net reduction at the regional level from the turbo props or the 200's?
The total number of allowable large RJs was REDUCED as a result of the merger.
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