Originally Posted by FaceBiter
(Post 2071837)
I've said it many times CPZ was da it spot a year or two ago. Those guys scored. Now? It's starting to smell like the Mesa pyramid scheme in here. Not saying SKW is the IT spot. So it's a "pick 'em" between the two (SKW & Compass) now? Neither one is better than the other, for someone who lives in base, all things considered? And if you were a dumb newb....like I am....where would you go today, knowing what you know?? |
Originally Posted by FaceBiter
(Post 2071850)
Naw, whatever works for you. Don't limit yourself to those two.
My point is Compass' time was last year. Things were a jolly good time for all these clueless kiddos, but being hired on the very back side of a hiring wave is not a good place to be. Especially when 2-3 years out a majority of the fleet is up for renewal. OK It sounds to me like you really know what you're talking about. You say Compass was the place to go 1-2 years ago, and you were right. Now, you're saying Compass is definitely not the place to go, but I notice you are not saying SKW is either. Where would you go as a newb today, knowing what you know? Who is the Compass of 2016-2017? |
Originally Posted by FaceBiter
(Post 2071838)
What about when 75% of the fleet is up for renewal soon? Or when AA gives the 175's away.
Hey... if you guys jumped on at the right time, awesome. Don't try and peddle the MESA sauce on all the newbs just because they're dumb enough to take a bite. But you really think we're positioned to lose flying as one of the cheapest operators of an extremely in demand jet? I highly doubt that. DL would like to give us MORE flying. AA stuff... we are doing so well with it and we're cheap enough that the economics state it'll stay around, plus who the hell is gonna be able to staff it? Envoy? you must be joking... not on that concessionary contract. Even if it did go away, regional pilots aren't so cheap or easy to find these days, so that's a commodity. And we are basically a staffing agency, we don't own the planes or the gas or the engines. We just have pilots.. which have value. I'm not selling anybody down the river, I'm just backing up the math. 14 in jan and 22 so far this month. Granted some are FOs, but the CA attrition alone is high enough that with the size of the pilot group movement is gonna continue to be quick. That's not a pyramid scheme, you can do the math the same as I can. |
Originally Posted by phalanxo
(Post 2071866)
Your troll game is strong as always FB but you know as well as I do that pilots are commodities. I can't predict the future. But I can tell you official attrition numbers just came out and it's even better than I thought... 35 so far this year, and it's only Feb 19th. Again, 600 active pilots. I'm not promising an 18 month upgrade, but is it going to be faster than Skywest? Absolutely yes it is... and the math sure works out pretty decently close /if things stay the same/ as I said.
But you really think we're positioned to lose flying as one of the cheapest operators of an extremely in demand jet? I highly doubt that. DL would like to give us MORE flying. AA stuff... we are doing so well with it and we're cheap enough that the economics state it'll stay around, plus who the hell is gonna be able to staff it? Envoy? you must be joking... not on that concessionary contract. Even if it did go away, regional pilots aren't so cheap or easy to find these days, so that's a commodity. And we are basically a staffing agency, we don't own the planes or the gas or the engines. We just have pilots.. which have value. I'm not selling anybody down the river, I'm just backing up the math. 14 in jan and 22 so far this month. Granted some are FOs, but the CA attrition alone is high enough that with the size of the pilot group movement is gonna continue to be quick. That's not a pyramid scheme, you can do the math the same as I can. |
I'll say this, FaceBiter...
You seem to know a lot about Compass while at the same time inferring, as a SKW pilot, that I should look elsewhere rather than come to SKW. For me, the takeaway is that...Compass aside...I should definitely NOT go to SKW. Which is interesting. Because ya don't hear anyone from Compass saying that about their company. |
Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
(Post 2071811)
Skywest blowhard alert!!!!
#cadetforlife #cadetsrule |
Originally Posted by Nantonaku
(Post 2071873)
Every Regional in the country is going to have a 2-3 year upgrade in the future, even Skywest. The stability, resources (to attract new pilots) and base selection of Skywest is worth the extra few months it would take to upgrade. If Compass announced more flying then that might change things.
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I'm moving up 30 to 35 numbers a month with just over 1.5 years in. 1150 pilots under me. I've moved up about 550 numbers since I started.
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