Nah, you are good. I agree with what you said in the other post. And yeah, I was kinda sick of all the hat *****ing too. The hat thing wasnt a big deal in that newsletter. If the people in question even attempted to wear it as the FOM says(Im my experience most guys do, as per the FOM by the way) this wouldnt be an issue. Once in a while guys dont at all. Im sure those people are who the section on the hat policy was targeting, the guys who blatantly disregard it.There are much more important things to talk about. Lets all move on.

Speaking of the new aerodata system. How about those new count sheets we will have for all of two months? haha

 

Ohh you mean the count sheets that the FAs still don't know how to use properly??


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Powerman was probably my favorite captain. His post got me wondering how many times I had put him in that position. Good post.

 

lol in their defense they didn't know how to use the old ones properly, either

 

If you read above you will see that attrition and wondering what the company is going to do about it has been mentioned. People dont follow the FOM all day long. Like the ones who show up and tell the Captain that they are the jumpseater and not ask for permission like the FOM says. The issue isn't the hat as much as it is about the threats. When the contract becomes amendable they should have the hat requirement removed, after all we don't have flow to Delta anymore. Even Deltas W/O doesn't the hat requirements. The company needs to be more concerned about keeping people coming in and trying to grow the company. Now that there has been a change in mgmt and CP's the care and concern about our promised career progression seems to have fallen to the way side.

 

http://abc7chicago.com/news/delta-plane-parked-at-midway-catches-fire/1517742/

Someone's gonna get section 19'd for this. It's almost as bad as not wearing your hat.

 

You're right. If you just wear your hat, Compas/ALPA lanyard, wear only M&H pants, always have the blazer on outside the cockpit Nov-Apr, haul that safety vest along in your suitcase, never take a picture of anything in cruise and just leave the iPad screensaver as the generic TSH, you shoudn't have to worry about having a potential multi-million dollar career destroyed.

If you think people are just upset about having to wear hats, you missed the purpose for their frustrations.

 

I didn't miss it saturn, I hoped to invoke some self-reflection with regards to the petty nature of it all.
Maybe a little acedote of a life-lesson I learned the hard way will help put it in perspective;
A long time ago, in a desert far-far away...I was a 20-something y.o. enlisted guy in our beloved armed forces. The Commander of our remote outpost (let's call it ****ehole-in-the-wall) was a highly decorated Lt Colonel. This highly regarded officer was putting in some command time to round out his full-time B-2 gig enroute to his next stop at NASA, where he would command the shuttle.
Meanwhile, at outpost ****ehole-in-the-wall, a nasty outbreak of foot fungus had infested the shower tents.
I made my first mistake by not looking busy as the 1st Sgt neared. He pounced, thrusted a scrub brush and a bucket of bleach water in my hands, and ordered me to the shower tent to engage the foot fungus...no retreat, fight to the last man.
My black cloud of disdain overhead, I sulked through the maze of hootches. Enroute I happened upon Mugsy (name not changed, f Mugsy) identically equipped with aforementioned brush, bucket, and cloud. We quickly summized that the task assigned was beneath the duties of such fine american warriors as we, agreeing that the assault on the fungus would be half-hearted at best, 1st Sgt be damned.
Together we approached the fungus infested tent, our cries of indignation reaching a crescendo as we pulled back the flap. To our surprise, another poor sap had already been conscripted into the most repulsive of assignments and was head down, *** up, and giving that fungus floor all he had. I exchanged an amused glance with Mugsy regarding the sap's gusto, silly little airman. Then he looked up at us, face dripping with sweat. The horror hit me like a deuce-and-a-half. That silly little airman scrubbing like a man possessed, covered in sweat, bleach, and fungus, was the Commander. And he'd heard every word.
I'm not a big man but I've never felt so small.
Miss the point? We aren't special. This is work.

 

I think you're missing the point.
I understand work and professionalism. We are paid to fly their airplane the way they want it flown, and dressed how they want us to dress. It is your job. That said... you seem to think work should only be work, that we can never have fun and that management should take a commanding threatening punishing tone with everybody because THIS IS WORK GODDANGIT WHY WON'T YOU KIDS GET SERIOUS, I'll SECTION 19 THE M&H PANTS OFF ALL OF YOU!
Work can be fun. Management can be cordial and friendly. We can all stay professional doing it.
Lighten up.
Can we please stop talking about hats and go back to talking about pens, particularly in V-files? Thank you.

 

This is exactly what we need another airplane out of service.