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Old 09-23-2016 | 08:21 PM
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For all the FOs. Anyone else look at the open time for next month and notice the middle name of one of the CAs? How did that one slip through the cracks?!
Old 09-24-2016 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772
For all the FOs. Anyone else look at the open time for next month and notice the middle name of one of the CAs? How did that one slip through the cracks?!
Anyone can change their name. That being said, why would you change it to that? Some people just aren't getting enough attention...
Old 09-24-2016 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Deice Press
Very accurate. Compass is about to run into a new world of staffing issues over the next few months. Retention bonuses (both seats) or a flow/interview program would be about the only way to prevent it.
Compass will need to do something. If I was a brand new pilot with zero 121 time shopping for a regional carrier, unless I desperately wanted to be based in LA or Seattle, I'd be looking elsewhere. With no fallback of a flow however gimmicky they are, it would go on my list of cons against coming. With how the majors are hiring/will have to hire the flow times will drop, and it's a ace up the sleeve incase you're application does not get pulled at one of the others sooner.
Next would be pay, first year pay has increased substantially from the days when only one or two places were hiring, but in this environment where all the regionals are not only hiring, most are offering bonuses both for coming, then for staying (sign on and retention) those places become more attractive. Even LCC are paying more to attract talent, Allegiant is paying $96 an hour second year - with other LCCs going the same direction, enough to make a retention bonus or consider increasing CA pay to hemorrhage the losses.
Beyond that reading this thread about how the company is turning into TSA with maintenence that "deferred is preferred," or watch how you behave, or else we'll punish you is another con. An aircraft with 15 deferred items (5 MEL, 10 NEF) out of a heavy check was not what the FAA intended deferred maintenence programs for. This is not the old Compass and it's changing into a new TSA. Which is a difficulty when it comes to pay negotiations, Trans States believes the current pay package is top notch. Yet in a chief pilot newsletter they admit that "Employee recruitment can be a challenge for any company."
Long story short it's a decent place to hang out for now, but if issues aren't addressed, that may not be true in the future.
Old 09-24-2016 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mandrake
Anyone can change their name. That being said, why would you change it to that? Some people just aren't getting enough attention...
I'm guessing she got hacked.
Old 09-24-2016 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by veewan
Compass will need to do something. If I was a brand new pilot with zero 121 time shopping for a regional carrier, unless I desperately wanted to be based in LA or Seattle, I'd be looking elsewhere. With no fallback of a flow however gimmicky they are, it would go on my list of cons against coming. With how the majors are hiring/will have to hire the flow times will drop, and it's a ace up the sleeve incase you're application does not get pulled at one of the others sooner.
Next would be pay, first year pay has increased substantially from the days when only one or two places were hiring, but in this environment where all the regionals are not only hiring, most are offering bonuses both for coming, then for staying (sign on and retention) those places become more attractive. Even LCC are paying more to attract talent, Allegiant is paying $96 an hour second year - with other LCCs going the same direction, enough to make a retention bonus or consider increasing CA pay to hemorrhage the losses.
Beyond that reading this thread about how the company is turning into TSA with maintenence that "deferred is preferred," or watch how you behave, or else we'll punish you is another con. An aircraft with 15 deferred items (5 MEL, 10 NEF) out of a heavy check was not what the FAA intended deferred maintenence programs for. This is not the old Compass and it's changing into a new TSA. Which is a difficulty when it comes to pay negotiations, Trans States believes the current pay package is top notch. Yet in a chief pilot newsletter they admit that "Employee recruitment can be a challenge for any company."
Long story short it's a decent place to hang out for now, but if issues aren't addressed, that may not be true in the future.
^^^^ this

I have a CJO with Compass to start in the next few months and I have to agree with you that I am having a few second thoughts for the exact reasons you just stated. I also have a CJO with Endeavor and the more I read on here lately the tougher the decision becomes. I'm commuting from Delta's hometown and God willing I know either course will get me there in fairly short order. I didn't have any doubts until recently that I would absolutely be better off at Compass....
I'd also like to add that having to pony up $$ for travel and hotel for the 1 day orientation has to be an obstacle for some people, luckily I can afford it but certainly don't like it. I also have a year of 121 in the CRJ under my belt to consider being useful
Old 09-24-2016 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by flynfish77
^^^^ this

I have a CJO with Compass to start in the next few months and I have to agree with you that I am having a few second thoughts for the exact reasons you just stated. I also have a CJO with Endeavor and the more I read on here lately the tougher the decision becomes. I'm commuting from Delta's hometown and God willing I know either course will get me there in fairly short order. I didn't have any doubts until recently that I would absolutely be better off at Compass....
I'd also like to add that having to pony up $$ for travel and hotel for the 1 day orientation has to be an obstacle for some people, luckily I can afford it but certainly don't like it. I also have a year of 121 in the CRJ under my belt to consider being useful
Well if your going to be a commuter at either company then you need to see which place you would rather be on rsv with. If you come here there your looking at 2-3months on rsv. I hear its a tad bit longer rsv at Endeavor. This place is great and I have not had any regrets switching to this company. Sure we have our problems, but so does every other company...just go check out the mesa thread...
Old 09-24-2016 | 06:30 PM
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Also hard to turn down a nice fat 20K signing bonus at some of the Flow carriers. that and S3 level travel can make up for a little longer stretch on reserve in my book. plus another 20K after 1 year for a retention bonus.
Old 09-24-2016 | 09:59 PM
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Anybody recently go through the initial training at Compass? After the 2-week deal once you go back for 6 weeks, whats that like? Any days off to go home? Do you have a hotel to yoursef?
Old 09-24-2016 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by flynfish77
^^^^ this

I have a CJO with Compass to start in the next few months and I have to agree with you that I am having a few second thoughts for the exact reasons you just stated. I also have a CJO with Endeavor and the more I read on here lately the tougher the decision becomes. I'm commuting from Delta's hometown and God willing I know either course will get me there in fairly short order. I didn't have any doubts until recently that I would absolutely be better off at Compass....
I'd also like to add that having to pony up $$ for travel and hotel for the 1 day orientation has to be an obstacle for some people, luckily I can afford it but certainly don't like it. I also have a year of 121 in the CRJ under my belt to consider being useful
You'd be silly not to come to 9E. You would have a 1 leg commute to NYC, DTW, or MSP. You'd be off of reserve in NYC by the time you finished OE. You'd be upgrading to captain in NYC by the time you hit 1000 121, if you aren't already there.

This is coming from someone that regrets their decision to come to 9E.
Old 09-25-2016 | 04:33 AM
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I know everyone loves the should I go here or there game.. and I can't speak for the other airlines. This however is how it worked for me for everyone considering CPZ. Hired fall last year, just cracked 40k in 12 months. My 2015 is on par for 50k with two referrals ($1500 bonuses). Upgrade will be 18 months due to not having the 121 time. Reserve was 3 months. That on top of being able to fly the 175 and great west coast flying... I would still make this decision again. No we don't have flow, yes we are owned by TSH and have our fair share of problems with that... but that being said many of our captains are leaving and attrition is picking up. Is this a good wage for a regional FO? I do think overall regional pilots should be paid more but it's supply and demand and so far people are still signing up. I'm sure Compass will adjust if it becomes an issue. Would a flow be nice? Of course but it's not keeping our captains from being hired at all the different places. We have barely any lifers to count and our list moves steadily. After taxes are taken from all those other bonuses at other places I basically made a comparable wage and many if not most of my captains came from all the other regionals. To not have to put up with what they all left, Compass is a good place to come, get experience, upgrade, and move along to the majors. Is it always perfect? No it's a regional.
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