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#31
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Position: 6th place
Posts: 1,826
Well I talked to the other pilot (technically the chief pilot). Thank you all for the advice. I basically laid it all out there and told him what I had planned. He was appreciated I let him know what was up. Basically left the choice up to me to go to training or not. So my plan is if I have a class date prior my recurrent date I’m not going to go. If I haven’t gotten a CJO yet then I’ll go to training.
My main reasoning for doing so is our operation is pretty close knit. We essentially just fly for two families. My compensation is low but otherwise they treat us very well and treat us with a lot of respect. Thus I want to return the favor.
Also the market in OKC is very small and close knit as well and I don’t want to risk making a bad name for myself Incase I ever need a job around here again.
My main reasoning for doing so is our operation is pretty close knit. We essentially just fly for two families. My compensation is low but otherwise they treat us very well and treat us with a lot of respect. Thus I want to return the favor.
Also the market in OKC is very small and close knit as well and I don’t want to risk making a bad name for myself Incase I ever need a job around here again.
Them being nice to you doesn’t pay the bills. If they respected you they’d pay you what you’re worth.
You’re just the help to these people.
#32
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: DashTrash. King Air 90/200 PIC
Posts: 44
#33
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 115
If your current job is a flying job, will the current employer not find out via the PRIA request? How do you keep it to 2 weeks if you interview months in advance and the current employer gets the PRIA well before then?
Asking in general, not specifically about the OPs scenario.
Asking in general, not specifically about the OPs scenario.
#34
Well the owner knows now. He was very appreciative that i was straightforward with them. Wants to try to keep me but told him i have to pursue my dream of flying for a major and that staying here will greatly slow that down. He said i have a job until im ready to move on. I know each situation is different but for me being forward and honest with them seems like it will payoff. Never know when i might want back in the corporate market around here and i feel like i would get a strong recommendation from my current shop.
#35
If your current job is a flying job, will the current employer not find out via the PRIA request? How do you keep it to 2 weeks if you interview months in advance and the current employer gets the PRIA well before then?
Asking in general, not specifically about the OPs scenario.
Asking in general, not specifically about the OPs scenario.
#36
#37
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 182
I’m glad doing what we all probably think is the right thing worked out! There are some good operators out there.
Just for fun here’s a story from my past:
I was working for a guy here in Tampa flying his really nice Navajo on a retainer/contract basis. I also flew a C90B for a 135 outfit part time. I received an offer from Ring Power (bid Caterpillar dealer) for a full time gig in their 350.
I told the Navajo guy that I was offered the new job and would be leaving for school in a couple of weeks. I had arranged for another contractor (one he really liked) to cover the trips while I was in 350 school. I also had gotten permission from Ring to continue to fly his airplane while helping him find and vet my replacement. I told him this on the outbound leg of a day trip.
While on the day layover, I received a call from the CP at Ring saying that he just got a call from the boss and my offer had been rescinded. He had no idea why. My Navajo guy shows up to go home and on the leg back tells me I’m fired.
Did I mention he was buddies with the owner of Ring? He later bragged to the guy who replaced me that he “fixed me” and that I’d never work in Tampa again. I found out years later that he called the owner at Ring and they decided to screw me together.
I will say that it was fun parking my 900EX next to his Navajo and waving a friendly “Hi Don! How’ve you been?” About a year later on the ramp...
Just for fun here’s a story from my past:
I was working for a guy here in Tampa flying his really nice Navajo on a retainer/contract basis. I also flew a C90B for a 135 outfit part time. I received an offer from Ring Power (bid Caterpillar dealer) for a full time gig in their 350.
I told the Navajo guy that I was offered the new job and would be leaving for school in a couple of weeks. I had arranged for another contractor (one he really liked) to cover the trips while I was in 350 school. I also had gotten permission from Ring to continue to fly his airplane while helping him find and vet my replacement. I told him this on the outbound leg of a day trip.
While on the day layover, I received a call from the CP at Ring saying that he just got a call from the boss and my offer had been rescinded. He had no idea why. My Navajo guy shows up to go home and on the leg back tells me I’m fired.
Did I mention he was buddies with the owner of Ring? He later bragged to the guy who replaced me that he “fixed me” and that I’d never work in Tampa again. I found out years later that he called the owner at Ring and they decided to screw me together.
I will say that it was fun parking my 900EX next to his Navajo and waving a friendly “Hi Don! How’ve you been?” About a year later on the ramp...
#38
I’m glad doing what we all probably think is the right thing worked out! There are some good operators out there.
Just for fun here’s a story from my past:
I was working for a guy here in Tampa flying his really nice Navajo on a retainer/contract basis. I also flew a C90B for a 135 outfit part time. I received an offer from Ring Power (bid Caterpillar dealer) for a full time gig in their 350.
I told the Navajo guy that I was offered the new job and would be leaving for school in a couple of weeks. I had arranged for another contractor (one he really liked) to cover the trips while I was in 350 school. I also had gotten permission from Ring to continue to fly his airplane while helping him find and vet my replacement. I told him this on the outbound leg of a day trip.
While on the day layover, I received a call from the CP at Ring saying that he just got a call from the boss and my offer had been rescinded. He had no idea why. My Navajo guy shows up to go home and on the leg back tells me I’m fired.
Did I mention he was buddies with the owner of Ring? He later bragged to the guy who replaced me that he “fixed me” and that I’d never work in Tampa again. I found out years later that he called the owner at Ring and they decided to screw me together.
I will say that it was fun parking my 900EX next to his Navajo and waving a friendly “Hi Don! How’ve you been?” About a year later on the ramp...
Just for fun here’s a story from my past:
I was working for a guy here in Tampa flying his really nice Navajo on a retainer/contract basis. I also flew a C90B for a 135 outfit part time. I received an offer from Ring Power (bid Caterpillar dealer) for a full time gig in their 350.
I told the Navajo guy that I was offered the new job and would be leaving for school in a couple of weeks. I had arranged for another contractor (one he really liked) to cover the trips while I was in 350 school. I also had gotten permission from Ring to continue to fly his airplane while helping him find and vet my replacement. I told him this on the outbound leg of a day trip.
While on the day layover, I received a call from the CP at Ring saying that he just got a call from the boss and my offer had been rescinded. He had no idea why. My Navajo guy shows up to go home and on the leg back tells me I’m fired.
Did I mention he was buddies with the owner of Ring? He later bragged to the guy who replaced me that he “fixed me” and that I’d never work in Tampa again. I found out years later that he called the owner at Ring and they decided to screw me together.
I will say that it was fun parking my 900EX next to his Navajo and waving a friendly “Hi Don! How’ve you been?” About a year later on the ramp...
#40
New Hire
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Position: 777 Captain
Posts: 4
I think it's safe to say that I've had a 'sheltered' life in my airline career because I simply 'don't get it' as to why the Navajo guy was such a 'rat.' For that matter, so was the Ring guy.
After all, you did the 'right' thing. You gave ample notice and even went beyond that by finding a suitable replacement.
I hope the Navajo guy likes warm weather because I'm convinced that there must be a special place in Hell for people like him. There is simply no excuse for his behavior.
After all, you did the 'right' thing. You gave ample notice and even went beyond that by finding a suitable replacement.
I hope the Navajo guy likes warm weather because I'm convinced that there must be a special place in Hell for people like him. There is simply no excuse for his behavior.
I’m glad doing what we all probably think is the right thing worked out! There are some good operators out there.
Just for fun here’s a story from my past:
I was working for a guy here in Tampa flying his really nice Navajo on a retainer/contract basis. I also flew a C90B for a 135 outfit part time. I received an offer from Ring Power (bid Caterpillar dealer) for a full time gig in their 350.
I told the Navajo guy that I was offered the new job and would be leaving for school in a couple of weeks. I had arranged for another contractor (one he really liked) to cover the trips while I was in 350 school. I also had gotten permission from Ring to continue to fly his airplane while helping him find and vet my replacement. I told him this on the outbound leg of a day trip.
While on the day layover, I received a call from the CP at Ring saying that he just got a call from the boss and my offer had been rescinded. He had no idea why. My Navajo guy shows up to go home and on the leg back tells me I’m fired.
Did I mention he was buddies with the owner of Ring? He later bragged to the guy who replaced me that he “fixed me” and that I’d never work in Tampa again. I found out years later that he called the owner at Ring and they decided to screw me together.
I will say that it was fun parking my 900EX next to his Navajo and waving a friendly “Hi Don! How’ve you been?” About a year later on the ramp...
Just for fun here’s a story from my past:
I was working for a guy here in Tampa flying his really nice Navajo on a retainer/contract basis. I also flew a C90B for a 135 outfit part time. I received an offer from Ring Power (bid Caterpillar dealer) for a full time gig in their 350.
I told the Navajo guy that I was offered the new job and would be leaving for school in a couple of weeks. I had arranged for another contractor (one he really liked) to cover the trips while I was in 350 school. I also had gotten permission from Ring to continue to fly his airplane while helping him find and vet my replacement. I told him this on the outbound leg of a day trip.
While on the day layover, I received a call from the CP at Ring saying that he just got a call from the boss and my offer had been rescinded. He had no idea why. My Navajo guy shows up to go home and on the leg back tells me I’m fired.
Did I mention he was buddies with the owner of Ring? He later bragged to the guy who replaced me that he “fixed me” and that I’d never work in Tampa again. I found out years later that he called the owner at Ring and they decided to screw me together.
I will say that it was fun parking my 900EX next to his Navajo and waving a friendly “Hi Don! How’ve you been?” About a year later on the ramp...
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