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emersonbiguns 04-05-2020 10:59 AM

So, if it’s just the flu, why do they need refrigerated trucks for the unlucky ones?

(hint: r0)

Chief Brody 04-05-2020 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 3024399)
So, if it’s just the flu, why do they need refrigerated trucks for the unlucky ones?

(hint: r0)

Stop spreading fake news

CGLimits 04-05-2020 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Chief Brody (Post 3024407)
Stop spreading fake news

Are you serious?

CantStayAway 04-05-2020 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by Chief Brody (Post 3024407)
Stop spreading fake news

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mar...5-378253C2B750

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nymag.c...ck-bodies.html

Fake news huh?

Nacho Libre 04-05-2020 12:48 PM

Interesting article about H1N1 vs Coronavirus, response, mortality, CDC reaction and presence.

Hard to spin a virus story, science, math, and facts just keep coming.

https://www.propublica.org/article/n...ine-flu-either

Nacho Libre 04-05-2020 12:52 PM


This is really sad that loved ones, friends, and family have to hear about the loss of someone they know and that they might just be stacked up like cargo in semi trailer.

This is definitely not fake news, it tragic.

TurboFanMan 04-05-2020 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by Chief Brody (Post 3024407)
Stop spreading fake news

I’m still amazed by how deep some people have their heads buried in the sand. The company expects people like this to stay engaged!!??
Impossible!

Chief Brody 04-06-2020 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 3024399)
So, if it’s just the flu, why do they need refrigerated trucks for the unlucky ones?

(hint: r0)

Because the funeral homes are on lockdown. No one is being buried. Where do you suggest they put the bodies lying in wait??
Again fake news.. This is not due to the virus killing too many people. it is the reaction of the government shuddering businesses which would normally bury these bodies.
get your head out of the sand

BiffleBalls 04-06-2020 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Chief Brody (Post 3025339)
Because the funeral homes are on lockdown. No one is being buried. Where do you suggest they put the bodies lying in wait??
Again fake news.. This is not due to the virus killing too many people. it is the reaction of the government shuddering businesses which would normally bury these bodies.
get your head out of the sand

Anyone who uses the term "fake news" needs their head examined.

SFA320 04-06-2020 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by BiffleBalls (Post 3025351)
Anyone who uses the term "fake news" needs their head examined.

Sooooo there is never fake news?

Chief Brody 04-06-2020 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by SFA320 (Post 3025374)
Sooooo there is never fake news?

Fake news
https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-ne...ually-in-italy

Fake news
https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...sy/3997806002/

Fake news
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

Want anymore?? I can keep em coming

Chief Brody 04-06-2020 11:43 AM

One more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWY14eyMFg

Bozo the pilot 04-06-2020 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Chief Brody (Post 3025339)
Because the funeral homes are on lockdown. No one is being buried. Where do you suggest they put the bodies lying in wait??
Again fake news.. This is not due to the virus killing too many people. it is the reaction of the government shuddering businesses which would normally bury these bodies.
get your head out of the sand

Well said Brody.
No one will listen to you it seems which is a shame.
The reaction will affect hundreds of millions to save thousands. Its a ridiculous situation and it is based on fake models.
It has already "flattened" but our economy will suffer for YEARS.
Great job to those of you who are panicked. You're weak and acting in fear without the benefit of observation.

SFA320 04-06-2020 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 3025384)
Well said Brody.
No one will listen to you it seems which is a shame.
The reaction will affect hundreds of millions to save thousands. Its a ridiculous situation and it is based on fake models.
It has already "flattened" but our economy will suffer for YEARS.
Great job to those of you who are panicked. You're weak and acting in fear without the benefit of observation.

The main thing that frustrates me is the timeline of this whole mess. The Wuhan Virus has likely been here since late November or early December. It was well documented that the Chinese Doc tried to blow the whistle during last week of December. Obviously, it takes time to even discover the new virus, run test etc. If it’s really as contiguous as they think, I would bet it has been here since Thanksgiving. Maybe earlier.
So all the shutdowns were over three months late. China and the WHO of course didn’t handle it properly. I just think millions more have already had it, and the true mortality rate is closer to other viruses. Time will tell I guess. I’m hoping the downward trend of deaths/infections continues and we can all get back to what we love.

Tom Bradys Cat 04-06-2020 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by SFA320 (Post 3025449)
The main thing that frustrates me is the timeline of this whole mess. The Wuhan Virus has likely been here since late November or early December. It was well documented that the Chinese Doc tried to blow the whistle during last week of December. Obviously, it takes time to even discover the new virus, run test etc. If it’s really as contiguous as they think, I would bet it has been here since Thanksgiving. Maybe earlier.
So all the shutdowns were over three months late. China and the WHO of course didn’t handle it properly. I just think millions more have already had it, and the true mortality rate is closer to other viruses. Time will tell I guess. I’m hoping the downward trend of deaths/infections continues and we can all get back to what we love.


I agree that it has been around for a long while as that appears to be a logical outcome. But.. And its a big but..... Why are the hospitals all of a sudden overflowing?

I honestly think that in a few months when the data comes out we will see that the vast majority of the population has had it thus driving down the mortality rate.

Trowserchilli 04-06-2020 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 3025384)
Well said Brody.
No one will listen to you it seems which is a shame.
The reaction will affect hundreds of millions to save thousands. Its a ridiculous situation and it is based on fake models.
It has already "flattened" but our economy will suffer for YEARS.
Great job to those of you who are panicked. You're weak and acting in fear without the benefit of observation.


Good post. Time for people to wake up.

ToddChavez 04-06-2020 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by VASBYT (Post 3025663)
Your handle shou

No kidding! ABC news literally published a fake video of a "nurse" that was proven to be fake within minutes of being published. Yet 2 days (YES 2 DAYS!) later, they have yet to correct it.

Need a real job 04-06-2020 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by SFA320 (Post 3025374)
Sooooo there is never fake news?

typical. I wish the media would revert back to reporting facts instead of opinions. Opinions are why we are in this mess. It’s completely unbelievable that the whole world shuts down over the “FLU.” People get a grip. The world is not ending.

ToddChavez 04-06-2020 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Need a real job (Post 3025708)
typical. I wish the media would revert back to reporting facts instead of opinions. Opinions are why we are in this mess. It’s completely unbelievable that the whole world shuts down over the “FLU.” People get a grip. The world is not ending.

Yep, and if there was any integrity in the media, they would report:

-Deaths are skewed severely due to under-testing
-Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, are asymptomatic and carry the virus without ever knowing.
-Hydroxychloroquine works.
-Suicides are up in astronomical numbers from people losing their livelihoods and being driven into poverty.
-Suicide hotlines are overwhelmed.

But.... orange man bad.

WaterRooster 04-06-2020 08:35 PM

Well if we survive I’m glad I got to read the last 4 pages of straight train wreck. This thread is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in it’s rambling, incoherent responses was anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone reading this thread is now dumber for having read it.

Thank you gentlemen.

Tom Bradys Cat 04-07-2020 03:42 AM


Originally Posted by WaterRooster (Post 3025738)
Well if we survive I’m glad I got to read the last 4 pages of straight train wreck. This thread is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in it’s rambling, incoherent responses was anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone reading this thread is now dumber for having read it.

Thank you gentlemen.


Thats simply your opinion. A straw man argument doesn't mean you are correct and they are wrong. Its clear you disagree but it doesn't mean they are wrong, incoherent or rambling.

But you are correct, it's clear that it's easier to win a discussion by shutting it down than adressing the points made.

emersonbiguns 04-07-2020 05:12 AM

Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: Evidence from the 1918 Flu

Notarealpilot 04-07-2020 07:00 AM

To answer the purpose of this thread I think we will definitely survive this as a company.

Bozo the pilot 04-07-2020 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by WaterRooster (Post 3025738)
Well if we survive I’m glad I got to read the last 4 pages of straight train wreck. This thread is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in it’s rambling, incoherent responses was anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone reading this thread is now dumber for having read it.

Thank you gentlemen.

Thanks Billy :D
You forgot " My wife is a dirty dirty *hore" lmao

fivebyfive 04-07-2020 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat (Post 3025831)
Thats simply your opinion. A straw man argument doesn't mean you are correct and they are wrong. Its clear you disagree but it doesn't mean they are wrong, incoherent or rambling.

But you are correct, it's clear that it's easier to win a discussion by shutting it down than adressing the points made.


Very well stated. When this is all said and done, I believe these “incoherent ramblers” will be proven right.

Fifi 04-07-2020 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Notarealpilot (Post 3025977)
To answer the purpose of this thread I think we will definitely survive this as a company.

my bet is indigo partners definitely survives——-no, thrives as a result of the current scenario.

not sure about F9 or any airline.

Falco27 04-07-2020 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 3026003)
my bet is indigo partners definitely survives——-no, thrives as a result of the current scenario.

not sure about F9 or any airline.

If it does survive hopefully they will get better management. How many times now has the Denver chief pilot screwed with people? I guess her calling in people for uniform violations rubbed off on philly

CGLimits 04-07-2020 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Falco27 (Post 3026280)
If it does survive hopefully they will get better management. How many times now has the Denver chief pilot screwed with people? I guess her calling in people for uniform violations rubbed off on philly

Or maybe professional airline pilots should just wear their freaking uniforms. It shouldn’t be that hard and it’s part of the job. This is not high school anymore. You don’t want to be called out on it? Wear your uniform then.

Falco27 04-07-2020 11:21 AM

I agree with you. But giving guys a hard time while they are deadheading? Handing out iPads? Sorry that I don’t agree with.

PulledBreaker 04-07-2020 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by CGLimits (Post 3026301)
Or maybe professional airline pilots should just wear their freaking uniforms. It shouldn’t be that hard and it’s part of the job. This is not high school anymore. You don’t want to be called out on it? Wear your uniform then.

Agreed.

Issued uniform and blazer, absolutely. The Members Only/Columbia garb, negative.

WaterRooster 04-07-2020 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 3025997)
Thanks Billy :D
You forgot " My wife is a dirty dirty *hore" lmao

Someone got the joke haha

RustyChain 04-07-2020 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by CGLimits (Post 3026301)
Or maybe professional airline pilots should just wear their freaking uniforms. It shouldn’t be that hard and it’s part of the job. This is not high school anymore. You don’t want to be called out on it? Wear your uniform then.

Yes. I'm always embarrassed by the northface crowd. You can showcase your unique style on the layovers...

FlyingR6 04-08-2020 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by RustyChain (Post 3026567)
Yes. I'm always embarrassed by the northface crowd. You can showcase your unique style on the layovers...

I think we've come full circle.

THE NORTHFACE WILL RUIN FRONTIER. WE WILL NOT SURVIVE THIS.

Duct Mon 04-11-2020 02:16 PM

Are management and executives deferring their salaries, temporarily reducing salaries, completely forgoing their salaries during this time?

CrewRest 04-11-2020 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Duct Mon (Post 3030006)
Are management and executives deferring their salaries, temporarily reducing salaries, completely forgoing their salaries during this time?

From a 3/11 update in Comply 10% for company officers and 20% for Biffle.

RustyChain 04-11-2020 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by CrewRest (Post 3030138)
From a 3/11 update in Comply 10% for company officers and 20% for Biffle.

so it's not that serious...

RustyChain 04-11-2020 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingR6 (Post 3026889)
I think we've come full circle.

THE NORTHFACE WILL RUIN FRONTIER. WE WILL NOT SURVIVE THIS.

oh please. You just look like a mountain bro and not a pilot.

FlyingR6 04-12-2020 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by RustyChain (Post 3030151)
oh please. You just look like a mountain bro and not a pilot.

It was more of a joke about how it's a thread about the airline surviving, and were talking about jackets.

RustyChain 04-12-2020 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingR6 (Post 3030415)
It was more of a joke about how it's a thread about the airline surviving, and were talking about jackets.

touche. Nuance is sometimes lost in this format.

Brickhut 04-12-2020 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by RustyChain (Post 3026567)
Yes. I'm always embarrassed by the northface crowd. You can showcase your unique style on the layovers...

Only thing worse than the Northface crowd are the "senior slobs" (mostly DEN CA's). Guys in full uniform compliance by definition only. Old striped tie that is splitting and curling up at the end with a knot that looks like a 3 year old tied it, wrinkled off-white shirts that haven't seen bleach or a dry cleaner since they were produced, London fog coats that are so tattered and faded, they'd look more at home in an '86 Ford van at Chris Hanson's "Sting" house, and beat up old Payless loafers from their interview in 1994.

The uniform only looks professional when you wear it professionally.


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