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senecacaptain 04-05-2020 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Squirrel27 (Post 3024194)
The swine flu killed approx. 12000 people in the US. We're already approaching that number with this, and it's just getting started.

hey hey now lets not talk facts. this is a media hyped virus and fake news and "just like the flu"

oh flu victims don't go to the ICU ward and are in medically induced comas ?

uhh....

TOGALOCK 04-05-2020 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Squirrel27 (Post 3024194)
The swine flu killed approx. 12000 people in the US. We're already approaching that number with this, and it's just getting started.

8314 deaths in the US as of the end of the day yesterday. Based on predictive models by people far smarter and more educated than a group of pilots who may have stayed at a holiday inn express, we are approaching the peak point in the next week to twelve days. So, yes. We will likely see more than 12000 deaths, but to say that this is “just getting started” is a little melodramatic. What is truly “just getting started” is the economic destruction that this is causing.

I like BIG Bus 04-05-2020 08:09 AM

https://www.mdmag.com/medical-news/f...us-cdc-reports

just some facts to help the debate... can’t wait to see how far down the rabbit hole this can get.

TOGALOCK 04-05-2020 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by senecacaptain (Post 3024204)

oh flu victims don't go to the ICU ward and are in medically induced comas ?

uhh....

Thousands of the worst cases do, yes. A shocking percentage of them die while there as well.

Excargodog 04-05-2020 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by TOGALOCK (Post 3024216)
Thousands of the worst cases do, yes. A shocking percentage of them die while there as well.

basically anybody sick enough to be on a respirator for acute respiratory distress from ANY cause has about a 40-50% chance of dying. Fortunately most influenza (and coronavirus) cases don’t get that ill.

Chief Brody 04-05-2020 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by TOGALOCK (Post 3024216)
Thousands of the worst cases do, yes. A shocking percentage of them die while there as well.

250,000-500,000 people a year die due from the Flu.

Fifi 04-05-2020 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by TOGALOCK (Post 3024210)
8314 deaths in the US as of the end of the day yesterday. Based on predictive models by people far smarter and more educated than a group of pilots who may have stayed at a holiday inn express, we are approaching the peak point in the next week to twelve days. So, yes. We will likely see more than 12000 deaths, but to say that this is “just getting started” is a little melodramatic. What is truly “just getting started” is the economic destruction that this is causing.

with different states following different guidance (7 with no shelter in place order, even) and virtually zero stats on reinfection plus testing still limited to probable infected, how is a peak even being spitballed?

senecacaptain 04-05-2020 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Chief Brody (Post 3024236)
250,000-500,000 people a year die due from the Flu.

the flu has 5 Million cases annually

COVID has 1.2M cases as of 04-5-2020. And 67k deaths. In four months.

See you in December

I like BIG Bus 04-05-2020 09:18 AM

The flu had over 29 million cases this season alone just in the U.S. I put that article in a few posts back. Covid-19 seems to be more “deadly”, but it’s been in the states since November-December time frame. There are a lot of people walking around who have had it not known and recovered. So arguing this stuff is pretty pointless until we have a real comparison.

WaterRooster 04-05-2020 09:24 AM

It’s awesome to see how many pilots here in their downtime became epidemiologists! Good on you guys! Always gotta have that B plan!


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