Enough cowardice, it’s not THAT bad!
04-26-2020 | 08:49 PM
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04-27-2020 | 12:35 AM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gNTHuCOjAy8
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...orse-than-flu/
Keep in mind the .1% flu death rate is including the 50 some percent that gets vaccines. Of those that don’t, can’t, or get the ‘wrong strain cocktail’ die. So that .1% chance is not even including the entire population.
COVID-19 is showing a .1% death rate (and lowering daily as we find out more). We are finding out much more infected people (which lowers death rate). And we aren’t even considering how many false death rates attributed to COVID-19 which we will learn in the future when there are 0 deaths from heart disease in 2020.
I get that it spreads way faster than flu, we need to protect at risk folks ala Sweden. That is risk mitigation and harm reduction..
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...orse-than-flu/
Keep in mind the .1% flu death rate is including the 50 some percent that gets vaccines. Of those that don’t, can’t, or get the ‘wrong strain cocktail’ die. So that .1% chance is not even including the entire population.
COVID-19 is showing a .1% death rate (and lowering daily as we find out more). We are finding out much more infected people (which lowers death rate). And we aren’t even considering how many false death rates attributed to COVID-19 which we will learn in the future when there are 0 deaths from heart disease in 2020.
I get that it spreads way faster than flu, we need to protect at risk folks ala Sweden. That is risk mitigation and harm reduction..
Based on the US flu death rate of 0.1, and the average number of flu deaths per year (over the past 9 years, of 37,400), we should expect about 120,000 US deaths in this 12 month cycle.
The Swedish death rate as of 26Apr is now at 0.69. If we had the same rate as Sweden, we would expect about 260,000 US deaths in the 12 month period.
We had about 50,000 Americans die in combat during the Vietnam War, which lasted about 30 years. We have had 55,415 Cvirus deaths to date, so we are already over the Vietnam War casualty number...in a few months...
04-27-2020 | 05:00 AM
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This. The only reason why things haven’t been worse and idiots can actually go out and protest is because the majority have listened to the health professionals.
04-27-2020 | 05:09 AM
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04-27-2020 | 05:25 AM
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The current death rate due to the Cvirus in the US (26Apr2020) is 0.32.
Based on the US flu death rate of 0.1, and the average number of flu deaths per year (over the past 9 years, of 37,400), we should expect about 120,000 US deaths in this 12 month cycle.
The Swedish death rate as of 26Apr is now at 0.69. If we had the same rate as Sweden, we would expect about 260,000 US deaths in the 12 month period.
We had about 50,000 Americans die in combat during the Vietnam War, which lasted about 30 years. We have had 55,415 Cvirus deaths to date, so we are already over the Vietnam War casualty number...in a few months...
Based on the US flu death rate of 0.1, and the average number of flu deaths per year (over the past 9 years, of 37,400), we should expect about 120,000 US deaths in this 12 month cycle.
The Swedish death rate as of 26Apr is now at 0.69. If we had the same rate as Sweden, we would expect about 260,000 US deaths in the 12 month period.
We had about 50,000 Americans die in combat during the Vietnam War, which lasted about 30 years. We have had 55,415 Cvirus deaths to date, so we are already over the Vietnam War casualty number...in a few months...
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemic.html
04-27-2020 | 06:05 AM
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The current death rate due to the Cvirus in the US (26Apr2020) is 0.32.
Based on the US flu death rate of 0.1, and the average number of flu deaths per year (over the past 9 years, of 37,400), we should expect about 120,000 US deaths in this 12 month cycle.
The Swedish death rate as of 26Apr is now at 0.69. If we had the same rate as Sweden, we would expect about 260,000 US deaths in the 12 month period.
We had about 50,000 Americans die in combat during the Vietnam War, which lasted about 30 years. We have had 55,415 Cvirus deaths to date, so we are already over the Vietnam War casualty number...in a few months...
Based on the US flu death rate of 0.1, and the average number of flu deaths per year (over the past 9 years, of 37,400), we should expect about 120,000 US deaths in this 12 month cycle.
The Swedish death rate as of 26Apr is now at 0.69. If we had the same rate as Sweden, we would expect about 260,000 US deaths in the 12 month period.
We had about 50,000 Americans die in combat during the Vietnam War, which lasted about 30 years. We have had 55,415 Cvirus deaths to date, so we are already over the Vietnam War casualty number...in a few months...
04-27-2020 | 06:26 AM
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The current death rate due to the Cvirus in the US (26Apr2020) is 0.32.
Based on the US flu death rate of 0.1, and the average number of flu deaths per year (over the past 9 years, of 37,400), we should expect about 120,000 US deaths in this 12 month cycle.
The Swedish death rate as of 26Apr is now at 0.69. If we had the same rate as Sweden, we would expect about 260,000 US deaths in the 12 month period.
We had about 50,000 Americans die in combat during the Vietnam War, which lasted about 30 years. We have had 55,415 Cvirus deaths to date, so we are already over the Vietnam War casualty number...in a few months...
Based on the US flu death rate of 0.1, and the average number of flu deaths per year (over the past 9 years, of 37,400), we should expect about 120,000 US deaths in this 12 month cycle.
The Swedish death rate as of 26Apr is now at 0.69. If we had the same rate as Sweden, we would expect about 260,000 US deaths in the 12 month period.
We had about 50,000 Americans die in combat during the Vietnam War, which lasted about 30 years. We have had 55,415 Cvirus deaths to date, so we are already over the Vietnam War casualty number...in a few months...
You can't, because there's no math for that. So you can't stand on the numbers on the other side of the equation either. If we did that, we should just stay in lockdown forever, and save 40,000 highway deaths per year.
And if we get a big war out of this, all bets are off. Remember, page 2 of chapter 1 of Autocracy 101 says if the people get restless, find an outside agent to blame for all your troubles. The more blame that needs to be shifted, the higher the odds of war.
The epidemiology may be a fun math problem for academics and government scientists, but they do not and cannot consider the other side of the equation, the human side. That's for government leaders and elected officials, who have to consider what the voters think as well. Leaders in this country are allowed unilateral freedom of action in the initial response to a crisis... after that the people get to weigh in.
Fundamentally, we do not have to lock down to save people...
If you're at risk, think you might be at risk, identify as at-risk, or are just plain chicken THEN STAY THE HECK HOME! No possible way to get COVID at home. The rest of society can provide for your basic needs while it all blows over IF it's allowed function.
People are educated on the issues, I doubt many will jumping on planes right away, but there are plenty of other economic sectors which could be functioning with basic precautions.
04-27-2020 | 06:51 AM
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If you're at risk, think you might be at risk, identify as at-risk, or are just plain chicken THEN STAY THE HECK HOME! No possible way to get COVID at home. The rest of society can provide for your basic needs while it all blows over IF it's allowed function.
People are educated on the issues, I doubt many will jumping on planes right away, but there are plenty of other economic sectors which could be functioning with basic precautions.
People are educated on the issues, I doubt many will jumping on planes right away, but there are plenty of other economic sectors which could be functioning with basic precautions.
Exactly. Not having a lockdown doesn’t mean, “force those with underlying conditions to a packed concert”. Y’all are welcome to stay home in your safe space till a vaccine comes out.
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