There is no need to assign numbers, that is what a percentage is for, to ‘see the big picture’. And looking at a pie chart, you don’t make decisions that can wreck the entire pie, when the tiniest sliver had a problem.

I’m not saying screw them, kill them...we need to protect them with everything we can do, short of wrecking the whole pie (but we decided the “wreck the whole pie” route), because then, no one can’t eat any of it, as opposed to just that sliver being tossed out and the rest saved.

Especially when this most in this sliver is going to die anyway in a few years. If I was in this sliver, I would beg of you to not ruin this great country to potentially extend my life 5-20 years more.

 

Nice rant, Alex Jones. I guess you forgot the Chinese OWN the port of Long Beach.

 

The don’t own it anymore. It was sold months ago.

 

Guess I missed that.

 

The issue with this logic is everyone is assuming the best-case scenario, which is you get it, it's not that bad for 90% of people, you develop anti-bodies that last several years, and move on. The conversations would be vastly different if we knew we were dealing with an incurable virus version of Tuberculosis versus a nasty rhinovirus. Right now, there's evidence to support each extreme. I mean, to add more uncertainty, the virus has started reactivating in Korea:
https://www.usnews.com/news/world-re...positive-again
Is this a one-off occurrence or is this going to be the new-normal for everyone infected? There are tons of possible long-term and N-th order effects, I just chose this specific one as an example. My point, as unpopular as it may be, is that we're actually handling it well. The virus showed up quickly, it got out of control in a few places, we locked down the economy, we've bought ourselves time to study the virus, develop vaccines, antivirals manufacture tests, PPE, etc, and now we're steadily and carefully opening the economy in phases. The shortest way out of this is we discover the virus isn't that bad. The longest way is it is that bad, and resistant to vaccines. Usually reality is somewhere in the middle.

 

Uh.., before the coronavirus came along we were having about 15,000 deaths EVERY DAY. We have three million deaths every year. With a population of a third of a Billion and a median life expectancy of ~80 years it could scarcely be otherwise.

But it ain’t a bell shaped curve of people centered on age 80. We have about 2 million people 90 years or over according to the census bureau but only ~75,000 people 100 years or over. Deaths increase radically after 80 years, chronic problems get worse, new problems develop. The metric the Preventive Medicine community uses is YPPL, that is Years of Potential Life Lost.

not all deaths are a tragedy, some in fact are a mercy. Half of the deaths in Italy so far have been in people 90 years and above with multiple preexisting conditions. That old codger that started smoking at 18 and has been doing two packs a day since he was eating C-rations during WWII is one bad cold or mild flue away from dying. H€|| yeah, encourage him to shelter in place with his oxygen tank or concentrator and wait for the general population to get this until there is enough herd immunity that he can safely leave his bedroom.

anybody who is healthy and less than 65 ought to be out and about. And that’s certainly the vast majority of airline pilots.

 

Your making to much sense for APC. The shutdown has always been about preventing large portions of society getting sick in roughly the same timeframe. I would hate to see what that looks like economically and socially. We’re opening back up. Some states a week earlier than last planned. The medical news is pretty positive so far. I’m not sure what the issue is? We are where we are today. Would have could have is for when it’s over.

 

Lost me there. Tuberculosis is a bacteria, has about as much in common with viruses as a Pontiac Grand Am.

 

It seems as though there could potentially be supply chain issues with meat due to numerous cases at processing factories. It’s a problem but manageable. What’s not manageable is supply chain issues across the economy, police, fire, truckers, doctors, nurses, military personnel, and grocery store workers shortages if this thing got out of hand initially. The mortality rate didn’t really matter if large portions of the country were sick around the same time for two weeks minimum.Today It seems as though we’re going to be past that potential problem shortly. To me that’s good news and now it’s on to phase 2. Reopening in a way that doesn’t cause the country to go back to phase 1 near term. There’s going to be issues along the way however the general trend is improving IMO.

 

This 92.6M figure does not count hypertension, people with ACE2 gene (who knows??? maybe a threat), or people with Cancer.

from KFF.org

So let’s say 93+ Million people. A lot of these “open now” folks must have shorted life insurance stocks or own casket company stocks.