rickair7777

They would absolutely not have done it intentionally... that's a strategic WMD attack with a US death toll at least 100 times that of 9/11, and a far higher global death toll.

Getting caught might mean getting nuked, or paying trillions in reparations in lieu of getting nuked. PRC might be able to put up a good conventional fight in the SCS, but they are vastly over-matched in the strategic realm, by both US and RUS. And then there's FRA, UK, Israel, PAK, IND... how many nuclear powers do you want to pizz off all at once, all of whom are at least peers capability?

And here's the logical proof: Even in some tin-foil alternative reality, if they *were* going to do it they would have waited for DJT to leave office... in addition to being aggressive, he was unpredictable, NOT the wild card you want in the deck if you're going to make the biggest gamble in your nation's 5,000 year history. They are patient, they'd have waited for some squishy hand-wringing Neville to be elected who *might* be too chicken to push the button (that's not the current Potus either).

block30

Meh. Iran hit a US base with missiles under Trump and nothing happened.

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Iran strikes back at US

with missile attack at

bases in Iraq

By NASSER KARIMI, AMIR VAHDAT and JON GAMBRELLJanuary 6, 2020




https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-ne...96aa5f48e577fc

....And I bet there is almost zero knowledge of this if you polled average Americans.

Regularguy

Rick

You need to give yourself some violation points for bringing up politics and your opinions on certain President.

But since you brought it up, in what way was he unpredictable when it came to China? Seems to me he spoke their language and refused to be bullied.

rickair7777

Apples to pomegranates.

They've doing stuff like that for over 15 years. In a war zone, in another country that we invaded, in their AOR. None of that is a WMD attack, an attack on the US homeland, or on US civilians.

It's been very calculated to discourage the US from being there without crossing the red line. Even so they almost screwed up a couple times, we've been within hours of erasing most of their military on a couple occasions. But we're not nuking anyone over a low-intensity conflict. We did actually take the out the guy who was for decades the primary architect of all of their international malign behavior.

Also due to the intricate wiring diagram and interactions of their civil government, clerical government, conventional military, and religious military Iran as a nation is effectively bat-poop crazy compared to the PRC. It's crazy like a fox, but still unpredictable and prone to mistakes and some arrogance (Soleimani died because he thought he could show his face in Iraq with impunity).

rickair7777

That's not in any way partisan politics. It's OK to say "Trump" or "Biden" in the context of governance or policy.

He was unpredictable in general, that's an obvious fact (why is irrelevant).

1) The PRC knew had no tolerance for their antics.
2) PRC would not be comfortable trying to guesstimate his "red line" for a strategic retaliation to a WMD attack.

Regularguy

First let’s go through your post

1. Calling Trump unpredictable is partisan politics. Why? Because you fail to hold Biden to similar standards.

2. Nobody every wrote it is “irrelevant” and in fact Trump’s Presidential position on China was quiet clear, unequivocal and un bending during his Presidency. That should be an “obvious fact” to the casual observer as well as you.

3. You seem to show a great fear about the uses of WMDs by the Trump Administration. Why is that?

4. I you are going to use the term “unpredictable” then you are also obligated to spell out why you believe that is so. If you don’t it just joins the rest of the social media noise and all too often seems to turn into facts which are really just false hoods.

By the way, I personally find Trump a reprehensible person and have said so since the day he was elected. However, I also find Joe Biden and Harris to fit into the very same mold. If that is partisan then I guess you will have to spell out with a definition which will prevent us from being charged with a violation.

And yes, while you are very subtle, you too are expressing your partisan political views in that post.

MiLtoMajor123

So what if they knew Covid 19 would have a 99% survival rate....and that it might be kind of bad...but not nation/world destroying? One would think if you are doing GOF research you would know how deadly a virus would be to humans right? That's the whole point. Sure...it's an Act of War....but the fact that there is US money all over that lab makes it even more probably because then there would be some serious CYA going on on the home front. Oh and it turned out to be the a great political weapon when Trump most likey would have won re-election with out it (I think most people can agree on that given the record economy and unemployment....which is a basic tenet of reelection).

So you have to ask yourself WHO benefited from Covid 19?

RI830

Rickair7777 needs to be removed as a mod.

He has threatened banning members and deleted posts that don’t agree with his flair of science and politics.
Now he deems that the CCP just “wouldn’t intentionally” release this virus on the world…..”his scientific opinion”…and claims it’s truth.
Then others post their scientific truths…..they are censored and/or banned.

Time for the mod status of rickair7777 to go

fcoolaiddrinker

Or we could go back to actually following APC rules. Partisan political discussions of any kind are not permitted. Unfortunately I don’t see that happening. It was a much better site when that was followed IMO.

RIPV3

Tin foil hat hypothetical (I hope): Unless C made a deal with B to get T out of office by temporarily sabotaging the US (and world) economy to get B elected. With a 99%+ survival rate people will die, but C has never had an issue with that. B and his son have ties to C, if B wins he looks the other way and lets C have a huge favor of some sort.

One thing is clear, Faucci is nothing more than a political puppet