Show me a "sanctioned" double blind study that utilizes the protocol of PROPER dosage of HCQ combined with zinc and the Z pack for Covid positive patients at ANY stage of the disease. I'll wait.....

That's right. The study doesn't exist. Because of the reported overwhelming anecdotal success of this protocol in France and the New York area by doctors who work outside the establishment, the WHO, CDC, and FDA won't sanction a proper study of the concept. Might actually prove the technique works and they can't have that.

 

So one using more then the recommended dosage is not unusual in acute situations. It’s is just you would not want to do it long term which many HCQ users are. You just said you have anecdotal observations and that is not how it works. France is one of the countries in which the double blind study failed. It has succeeded anywhere in the world in a double blind study.

 

​​​​​​​OK. I guess you guys are right.

Just how long have you all been taking this drug?

What??? You're not? I wonder why. I mean the highest authority in the land has said that's it's OK and your own research shows it is the best thing to take. So Why not take it? Why not put your medicine where your mouth is?

Hypocritical much? LOL
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Recommendation to take hydroxychloroquine.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ne-coronavirus

 

Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are still available to use by a physician but much better protocols are available. All the clinical trials I personally know of have concluded at this time. Now, based on on all the metadata analysis the benifits are still not not established and it is not the leading choice of therapy.

Whereas treatment with a combination anticoagulants, steriods, and other immune suppressent/antibody cocktail is proving to be much more effective in clinical settings and leading to a higher percentage of favorable outcomes. Compound that with remdisovir, which is in such short supply right now, there are many tools in the toolkit. The medical community is sharing information at a rapid pace and protocols are constantly being adjusted. At this time i see no clinics favoring one treatment over the other due to politics or financial gain.. especially since many of the clinics are now treating their own colleagues. Preventing patients from disseminating introvascular coagulation (DIC) and intubation are keys to favorable outcomes and preventing further multi system failure and post recovery chronic conditions.

Unfortunately, there is a rise in intubations again now, especially in Houston / San Antonio area. Fingers crossed it is curbed.

 

Are you always this obtuse? All the “sanctioned” studies OVERDOSED the patients with HCQ and/or did not include zinc and Zpac with the HCQ. That is the POINT. The protocol that resulted in positive anecdotal outcomes has NEVER BEEN CLINICALLY TESTED. Could it be that the “experts” don’t want to confirm the efficacy when PROPERLY used?

 

IF I were to contract this virus, my Doc is already on board with prescribing HCQ 200 mg with zinc and Zpac. He’s been prescribing HCQ to his Lupus patients for YEARS.
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There have been multiple multivariate studies performed.

If you want to supliment zinc feel free to just use a daily multivitamin

Zinc really has only been proven clinically to aid in marginal testosterone production. The whole zinc anion/cation and viruses has been largely debunked. That's how Zicam came and went and the massive amounts of lawsuits it had to defend. .

As far as azithromycin and covid goes. There is a lot of evidence that a broad spectrum antibiotic during seroconverion of the virus is effective at preventing secondary infection. We really have mixed and unsubstantiated results as an antiviral.

 

Obtuse here is the thing. There are currently four trials underway using your plan. That said you have no proof it works that isn’t anecdotal and small. I’d be happy if it works but right now there is no proof that it works. So when those trails are finished of the probe to work then great let’s go. It sounds like though you are in the wrong profession and should be putting your pharmD to better use in the research arena.

 

As sad as this may be, this site is one of my best for staying informed on covid treatment. The regular media is beyond disappointing.

Can you elaborate on what's going on in TX with intubations? My biggest fear (such that it is) about getting covid is that I'll end up in a hospital that doesn't yet understand the role of anti-inflammatory/coagulent treatment and is stuck on the ventilator bandwagon. Why our national dialog isn't more focused on effective treatment and less on partisan nonsense is beyond me.