Hydroxychloroquine increases Covid survival
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As sad as this may be, this site is one of my best for staying informed on covid treatment. The regular media is beyond disappointing.
Can you elaborate on what's going on in TX with intubations? My biggest fear (such that it is) about getting covid is that I'll end up in a hospital that doesn't yet understand the role of anti-inflammatory/coagulent treatment and is stuck on the ventilator bandwagon. Why our national dialog isn't more focused on effective treatment and less on partisan nonsense is beyond me.
Can you elaborate on what's going on in TX with intubations? My biggest fear (such that it is) about getting covid is that I'll end up in a hospital that doesn't yet understand the role of anti-inflammatory/coagulent treatment and is stuck on the ventilator bandwagon. Why our national dialog isn't more focused on effective treatment and less on partisan nonsense is beyond me.
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That's not what he said. He specifically referenced the media - which is agenda driven regardless of who you align with. CNN, Fox News, it doesn't matter. They all have agendas, and he's right to tune them out.
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if you really think this is a place to get trustworthy medical information on covid treatment, then you are beyond naive. why would you think a bunch of pilots are a better source of information than doctors or public health professionals? would you ask a physician for his opinion on how you should fly a plane or manage an in-flight emergency?
A lot of folks on here have medical backgrounds, so the constant name-calling and belittling of people's opinions is really tiresome.
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As sad as this may be, this site is one of my best for staying informed on covid treatment. The regular media is beyond disappointing.
Can you elaborate on what's going on in TX with intubations? My biggest fear (such that it is) about getting covid is that I'll end up in a hospital that doesn't yet understand the role of anti-inflammatory/coagulent treatment and is stuck on the ventilator bandwagon. Why our national dialog isn't more focused on effective treatment and less on partisan nonsense is beyond me.
Can you elaborate on what's going on in TX with intubations? My biggest fear (such that it is) about getting covid is that I'll end up in a hospital that doesn't yet understand the role of anti-inflammatory/coagulent treatment and is stuck on the ventilator bandwagon. Why our national dialog isn't more focused on effective treatment and less on partisan nonsense is beyond me.
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I have Covid. Symptoms started as headaches and fevers that wouldnt quit lasting a week straight. Then last Tuesday evening, it all went to hell. The fight to breath was the scariest in my life. No point in trying to describe it casue I cant put into words. I can see how easily this could take out people that are already having other health issues. I fear desperately for my father. My O2 saturation was 85-90% with a top fever 103.8, and it was very persistent.
Conditions worsened Wednesday morning and I was ready for a trip to the ER. My fiance got me into her doctors office. This lady is a cardiothoracic surgeon who closed down her general practice to open a COVID treatment center. They have treated hundreds of Covid patients now. The whole staff even had the damn bug. She told me to turn off the news because hydroxychloroquine was being pulled through the mud and politicized for no other reason than Trump. She assured me it's a safe enough drug to use and is very effective against COVID. So I went home with a prescription of hydroxychloroquine and a Z pack. Cost at walgreens was 9 dollars.
It's been a hell of a week. The waves of chills followed by massive fevers were intense but like I said the worst and scariest was the struggle to breath. As of yesterday (Sunday), I have relief from chills/fevers, that being the first in 2 weeks. I can take full breaths. As I write this I can feel each breath more productive. My O2 is back up consistently to 95%.
This is just my experience, yours may differ. I highly doubt my trajectory last week with no therapy was heading in any positive direction. I followed my doctors prescriptions of hydroxychloroquine and Z pack and I get to sit here thanking my lucky stars. My fiance seems to be coming down with symptoms so she will follow the same protocol. There is still more healing to do but I feel on the right track so far.
If you come down with this nasty thing....well....you do you. Good luck.
Conditions worsened Wednesday morning and I was ready for a trip to the ER. My fiance got me into her doctors office. This lady is a cardiothoracic surgeon who closed down her general practice to open a COVID treatment center. They have treated hundreds of Covid patients now. The whole staff even had the damn bug. She told me to turn off the news because hydroxychloroquine was being pulled through the mud and politicized for no other reason than Trump. She assured me it's a safe enough drug to use and is very effective against COVID. So I went home with a prescription of hydroxychloroquine and a Z pack. Cost at walgreens was 9 dollars.
It's been a hell of a week. The waves of chills followed by massive fevers were intense but like I said the worst and scariest was the struggle to breath. As of yesterday (Sunday), I have relief from chills/fevers, that being the first in 2 weeks. I can take full breaths. As I write this I can feel each breath more productive. My O2 is back up consistently to 95%.
This is just my experience, yours may differ. I highly doubt my trajectory last week with no therapy was heading in any positive direction. I followed my doctors prescriptions of hydroxychloroquine and Z pack and I get to sit here thanking my lucky stars. My fiance seems to be coming down with symptoms so she will follow the same protocol. There is still more healing to do but I feel on the right track so far.
If you come down with this nasty thing....well....you do you. Good luck.
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I have Covid. Symptoms started as headaches and fevers that wouldnt quit lasting a week straight. Then last Tuesday evening, it all went to hell. The fight to breath was the scariest in my life. No point in trying to describe it casue I cant put into words. I can see how easily this could take out people that are already having other health issues. I fear desperately for my father. My O2 saturation was 85-90% with a top fever 103.8, and it was very persistent.
Conditions worsened Wednesday morning and I was ready for a trip to the ER. My fiance got me into her doctors office. This lady is a cardiothoracic surgeon who closed down her general practice to open a COVID treatment center. They have treated hundreds of Covid patients now. The whole staff even had the damn bug. She told me to turn off the news because hydroxychloroquine was being pulled through the mud and politicized for no other reason than Trump. She assured me it's a safe enough drug to use and is very effective against COVID. So I went home with a prescription of hydroxychloroquine and a Z pack. Cost at walgreens was 9 dollars.
It's been a hell of a week. The waves of chills followed by massive fevers were intense but like I said the worst and scariest was the struggle to breath. As of yesterday (Sunday), I have relief from chills/fevers, that being the first in 2 weeks. I can take full breaths. As I write this I can feel each breath more productive. My O2 is back up consistently to 95%.
This is just my experience, yours may differ. I highly doubt my trajectory last week with no therapy was heading in any positive direction. I followed my doctors prescriptions of hydroxychloroquine and Z pack and I get to sit here thanking my lucky stars. My fiance seems to be coming down with symptoms so she will follow the same protocol. There is still more healing to do but I feel on the right track so far.
If you come down with this nasty thing....well....you do you. Good luck.
Conditions worsened Wednesday morning and I was ready for a trip to the ER. My fiance got me into her doctors office. This lady is a cardiothoracic surgeon who closed down her general practice to open a COVID treatment center. They have treated hundreds of Covid patients now. The whole staff even had the damn bug. She told me to turn off the news because hydroxychloroquine was being pulled through the mud and politicized for no other reason than Trump. She assured me it's a safe enough drug to use and is very effective against COVID. So I went home with a prescription of hydroxychloroquine and a Z pack. Cost at walgreens was 9 dollars.
It's been a hell of a week. The waves of chills followed by massive fevers were intense but like I said the worst and scariest was the struggle to breath. As of yesterday (Sunday), I have relief from chills/fevers, that being the first in 2 weeks. I can take full breaths. As I write this I can feel each breath more productive. My O2 is back up consistently to 95%.
This is just my experience, yours may differ. I highly doubt my trajectory last week with no therapy was heading in any positive direction. I followed my doctors prescriptions of hydroxychloroquine and Z pack and I get to sit here thanking my lucky stars. My fiance seems to be coming down with symptoms so she will follow the same protocol. There is still more healing to do but I feel on the right track so far.
If you come down with this nasty thing....well....you do you. Good luck.
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Are you suggesting he is lying? He said at the end, you do you. If you only trust pharmaceuticals until their patents expire stick with the new stuff. Me? If I felt like he did I'd try everything except a ventilator.
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There have been multiple multivariate studies performed.
If you want to supliment zinc feel free to just use a daily multivitamin
Zinc really has only been proven clinically to aid in marginal testosterone production. The whole zinc anion/cation and viruses has been largely debunked. That's how Zicam came and went and the massive amounts of lawsuits it had to defend. .
As far as azithromycin and covid goes. There is a lot of evidence that a broad spectrum antibiotic during seroconverion of the virus is effective at preventing secondary infection. We really have mixed and unsubstantiated results as an antiviral.
If you want to supliment zinc feel free to just use a daily multivitamin
Zinc really has only been proven clinically to aid in marginal testosterone production. The whole zinc anion/cation and viruses has been largely debunked. That's how Zicam came and went and the massive amounts of lawsuits it had to defend. .
As far as azithromycin and covid goes. There is a lot of evidence that a broad spectrum antibiotic during seroconverion of the virus is effective at preventing secondary infection. We really have mixed and unsubstantiated results as an antiviral.
Attached are two references that are of very different levels of detail, focus, and intent for your and any others reading pleasure:
Zn(2+) Inhibits Coronavirus and Arterivirus RNA
How Zinc Can Help with Infections
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