People with a BMI over 30 don't appear to be able to produce neutralizing antibodies to the spike.
https://i.ibb.co/sQX5dKp/spikeabs.jpg |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 3321229)
People with a BMI over 30 don't appear to be able to produce neutralizing antibodies to the spike.
https://i.ibb.co/sQX5dKp/spikeabs.jpg |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3321865)
Link? Is this from one of the vaccines, covid infection, or both?
I think that he is pointing to the fact that people with a BMI greater than 25 but less than 30 who have been infected with the actual virus are on that graph. Vaccine isn't Covid. |
A quick search on Google found it -
The majority of SARS-CoV-2-specific antibodies in COVID-19 patients with obesity are autoimmune and not neutralizing Interesting read - but my background is software and electronics, so I'm pretty far out of my element on this. |
Originally Posted by bradthepilot
(Post 3322259)
A quick search on Google found it -
The majority of SARS-CoV-2-specific antibodies in COVID-19 patients with obesity are autoimmune and not neutralizing Interesting read - but my background is software and electronics, so I'm pretty far out of my element on this. |
Originally Posted by RI830
(Post 3322099)
It says in the graph....."COVID" or "NO COVID".
I think that he is pointing to the fact that people with a BMI greater than 25 but less than 30 who have been infected with the actual virus are on that graph. Vaccine isn't Covid. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3322673)
Taking a graph out like that out of context with the associated write-up is likely to be misleading... in this case the graph title is not even shown.
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Originally Posted by bradthepilot
(Post 3322815)
I completely agree, which is why I took some time and found the study the graph was pulled from and linked it in my previous post. I put it up here in the hopes that someone smarter than me about these things (maybe you or someone else) might share some thoughts and I could see how close my understanding of the study and results is to yours...
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A new in-vitro study that indicates the spike proteins, whether from the bug OR the injections, impede DNA repair. Discussion section suggests a move away from full spike protein vaccines.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8538446/ Money quote: In contrast, our data provide valuable details on the involvement of spike protein subunits in DNA damage repair, indicating that full–length spike–based vaccines may inhibit the recombination of V(D)J in B cells, which is also consistent with a recent study that a full–length spike–based vaccine induced lower antibody titers compared to the RBD–based vaccine [28]. This suggests that the use of antigenic epitopes of the spike as a SARS–CoV–2 vaccine might be safer and more efficacious than the full–length spike. |
FDA approves Pfizer and Moderna boosters for all adults...
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...sters-approved |
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