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rickair7777 08-23-2021 06:25 AM

Pfizer granted regular FDA approval...

https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...ne-2021-08-23/

rickair7777 08-23-2021 06:33 AM

IR finds that booster shots reduce infection by a factor of four compared to two doses (5-6 times better against severe covid). They've only done boosters for 60+ so far...


https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...sk-2021-08-22/

This data is specific to their demographic, which means people who got the first two doses very early in 2021. It also doesn't measure any drop-off from the third dose yet (obviously).

Excargodog 08-23-2021 08:37 PM

https://i.ibb.co/WPj62z7/82769812-6-...4-C112-CA3.jpg

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/india...085900052.html

Abouttime2fish 08-24-2021 04:17 AM

Stolen from United thread…..

https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

rickair7777 08-24-2021 06:20 AM

I'd have to do some research to really form an opinion but I suspect that a DNA vaccine might be the one technology which might actually need a longer-term trial.

rickair7777 08-25-2021 09:41 AM

J&J booster study show a x9 increase in antibodies, compared to one month after the original dose. This will likely lead to the fed recommending J&J boosters.

Article on WSJ (paywall).

rickair7777 08-25-2021 09:43 AM

UK study shows mRNA efficacy declines within six months, more indication that boosters are useful. Declining antibody levels was previously reported by the mfgs.

https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...rs-2021-08-25/

BoilerUP 08-25-2021 09:55 AM

Remember those UK studies from months ago showing that an 8-12 week gap between Pfizer doses led to significantly higher antibodies than the 3 week interval?

Excargodog 08-31-2021 01:57 PM

This is sort of interesting…
 
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...fizer-research

It looks like at least a portion of the duration of effectiveness of the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines is because immunization is particularly effective in those who have already had COVID, giving higher antibody levels than in COVID naive individuals. Now that’s not really surprising, but it does make you wonder to what extent the benefit being touted by vaccination comes from people who already had antibodies aboard before being immunized and weren’t all that high risk to begin with.

rickair7777 09-01-2021 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3288530)
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...fizer-research

It looks like at least a portion of the duration of effectiveness of the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines is because immunization is particularly effective in those who have already had COVID, giving higher antibody levels than in COVID naive individuals. Now that’s not really surprising, but it does make you wonder to what extent the benefit being touted by vaccination comes from people who already had antibodies aboard before being immunized and weren’t all that high risk to begin with.

Remember the trials? Double blind with control groups?

The controls accounted for any *effective* existing natural immunity, whether it was genetic, acquired from a previous coronavirus, or from covid-19.

The vaccines provided near-perfect protection against severe covid COMPARED TO THE CONTROLS. Plausible that some of that benefit was due to existing natural immunity + vaccine, but obviously existing natural immunity alone was not enough to get the death rate low enough for society in general to be cool with it.


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