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Old 05-14-2021, 02:30 PM
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Well they already do with the Yellow fever vaccine plus with Covid it will be the countries you are flying too preventing entry. If China or the EU says crews must be vaccinated not much anybody can do.
Obviously you can't fly to places which require it. No brainer. And the company will ultimately prevail if people expect to get paid to not fly because they chose not to get the vaccine... that would be like choosing not to renew your medical and expecting to still be paid for your trips.

They can make the case that it's operationally disruptive for crew to try to rely on negative covid tests, since those have high false positive rates for screening healthy people en masse... too many cancelled flights after somebody goes into quarantine at the destination.

Also most contracts probably have language related to force majeure and additional new regulatory requirements, like for example if the FAA added medical screening requirements. Contracts are not airtight, especially if it comes down to common sense.

They're pulling their punches now, but the heat's probably going to get dialed up when the vaccines get regular FDA approval.
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Old 05-14-2021, 02:54 PM
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I think these requirements will only exist until things settle down or something more drastic comes along or Covid levels start going down. Until then the non-vaxed will be singled out.
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thanks? Is this not the article that is already being discussed here?
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Old 05-19-2021, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by filejw View Post
Well they already do with the Yellow fever vaccine plus with Covid it will be the countries you are flying too preventing entry. If China or the EU says crews must be vaccinated not much anybody can do.
uh o
https://www.enr.com/articles/51691-o...Cez_txhrBVbu8o

OSHA might put a wrinkle in any companies plan to require it!
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Oh, so shots not seniority...
I love the pilots beotching about seniority abrogation if they can’t do international flights due to not being vaccinated. This is ‘Murica, but in the rest of the world don’t be surprised if you get a “no vaccine, no entry” rule. I can’t believe there are pilots who are refusing the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine these days. Yes, because pilots choose so expertly on women and investments. Nah. It’s this vaccine that they know would screw them.


Embarassing. I’ve flown with a few anti-vaxxers. It’s painful to hear their reasons why. Most are pure myth, BS type reasons.
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I love the pilots beotching about seniority abrogation if they can’t do international flights due to not being vaccinated. This is ‘Murica, but in the rest of the world don’t be surprised if you get a “no vaccine, no entry” rule. I can’t believe there are pilots who are refusing the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine these days. Yes, because pilots choose so expertly on women and investments. Nah. It’s this vaccine that they know would screw them.


Embarassing. I’ve flown with a few anti-vaxxers. It’s painful to hear their reasons why. Most are pure myth, BS type reasons.
They’re missing out on better WiFi too....
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
I love the pilots beotching about seniority abrogation if they can’t do international flights due to not being vaccinated. This is ‘Murica, but in the rest of the world don’t be surprised if you get a “no vaccine, no entry” rule. I can’t believe there are pilots who are refusing the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine these days. Yes, because pilots choose so expertly on women and investments. Nah. It’s this vaccine that they know would screw them.


Embarassing. I’ve flown with a few anti-vaxxers. It’s painful to hear their reasons why. Most are pure myth, BS type reasons.

Plenty of countries are opening up to tourism and Negative Covid tests are sufficient enough. The media headlines all say Europe opens to vaccinated travelers, but if you actually bypass the news and visit the actual embassy websites for places like Greece, Italy and a few others in Europe it clearly states entry is allowed for vaccinated OR proof of negative tests. Thats how things will be going forward, tourist destinations would be stupid to require vaccines only. Turn off the news guys and dig deeper and bypass all that crap you see on the internet and cell phone, they are the filters... oh, and that goes for right wing news AND left wing news.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
I love the pilots beotching about seniority abrogation if they can’t do international flights due to not being vaccinated. This is ‘Murica, but in the rest of the world don’t be surprised if you get a “no vaccine, no entry” rule. I can’t believe there are pilots who are refusing the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine these days. Yes, because pilots choose so expertly on women and investments. Nah. It’s this vaccine that they know would screw them.


Embarassing. I’ve flown with a few anti-vaxxers. It’s painful to hear their reasons why. Most are pure myth, BS type reasons.
You mean the great myth of making healthy lifestyle choices and letting the immune system do the same job it's been doing since the beginning of human existence?

Surely you can't be serious
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You mean the great myth of making healthy lifestyle choices and letting the immune system do the same job it's been doing since the beginning of human existence?

Surely you can't be serious
This ain’t the regular flu. I’m really not gonna start on this. The anti vax pilot group is the worst to argue with. No minds gonna get changed.
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