The anti-vaxxers...
03-22-2021, 06:42 PM
#531
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
So I understand the hesitancy with mRNA vaccines. What about J&J? That’s a pretty straight forward vaccine, as I understand it.
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mRNA(Pfizer, Moderna)
Viral vector(J&J, AZ, SpunikV)
03-22-2021, 06:53 PM
#532
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Originally Posted by snackysmores
That is patently false. You WILL lose your career and livelihood if you share the wrong opinion on a social media platform.
03-22-2021, 07:00 PM
#533
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Originally Posted by 400000Dead
This thread is off the rails. Between teenagers lecturing us on how vaccines manipulate DNA, Xtreme87 trying to connect the dots to a New World Order, and former aviators regurgitating talking points from right-wing media, we are knee-deep in misinformation.
Meanwhile, thousands of Americans are still dying every day to COVID.
Your conspiracy chasing and idiocy are signs of your privilege. You've never faced a real threat in your entire lives, and that gives you the opportunity to be morons and chase ghosts. You should feel thankful to have such wide margins to be so dumb and continue thriving.
Meanwhile, thousands of Americans are still dying every day to COVID.
Your conspiracy chasing and idiocy are signs of your privilege. You've never faced a real threat in your entire lives, and that gives you the opportunity to be morons and chase ghosts. You should feel thankful to have such wide margins to be so dumb and continue thriving.
Also, so what about right-wing media? Are we not allowed to express our beliefs? Sorry bub, but welcome to America. Land of the free, and the home of the brave. You, cowering behind your computer, will not give a constructive opinion to add to the conversation. Instead, you "insult" people, and give arguments without rhetoric.
Not sure what privilege you're talking about, but if being molested by my teacher as a child and being put at gun point while traversing through Phoenix at night isn't a threat, I don't know what is.
03-22-2021, 07:02 PM
#534
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Originally Posted by 400000Dead
This thread is off the rails. Between teenagers lecturing us on how vaccines manipulate DNA, Xtreme87 trying to connect the dots to a New World Order, and former aviators regurgitating talking points from right-wing media, we are knee-deep in misinformation.
Meanwhile, thousands of Americans are still dying every day to COVID.
Your conspiracy chasing and idiocy are signs of your privilege. You've never faced a real threat in your entire lives, and that gives you the opportunity to be morons and chase ghosts. You should feel thankful to have such wide margins to be so dumb and continue thriving.
Meanwhile, thousands of Americans are still dying every day to COVID.
Your conspiracy chasing and idiocy are signs of your privilege. You've never faced a real threat in your entire lives, and that gives you the opportunity to be morons and chase ghosts. You should feel thankful to have such wide margins to be so dumb and continue thriving.
03-22-2021, 07:10 PM
#535
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Originally Posted by 400000Dead
This thread is off the rails. Between teenagers lecturing us on how vaccines manipulate DNA, Xtreme87 trying to connect the dots to a New World Order, and former aviators regurgitating talking points from right-wing media, we are knee-deep in misinformation.
Meanwhile, thousands of Americans are still dying every day to COVID.
Your conspiracy chasing and idiocy are signs of your privilege. You've never faced a real threat in your entire lives, and that gives you the opportunity to be morons and chase ghosts. You should feel thankful to have such wide margins to be so dumb and continue thriving.
Meanwhile, thousands of Americans are still dying every day to COVID.
Your conspiracy chasing and idiocy are signs of your privilege. You've never faced a real threat in your entire lives, and that gives you the opportunity to be morons and chase ghosts. You should feel thankful to have such wide margins to be so dumb and continue thriving.
But no need to belittle and make stuff up about the vaccine effort. Yes, politicians attempted to capitalize on this crisis and some of them wanted to put us all out of work forever. But the rational majority mostly won out, the whole vaccine effort is just intended to get us back to normal. There's Illuminati microchip in any of the vaccines.
03-22-2021, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
These graphics should give you an idea, even though they are not technically accurate.
Natural infection
mRNA(Pfizer, Moderna)
Viral vector(J&J, AZ, SpunikV)
Natural infection
mRNA(Pfizer, Moderna)
Viral vector(J&J, AZ, SpunikV)
That looks like the overhead panel of a 737. Got anything else?
03-22-2021, 07:18 PM
#537
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
So I understand the hesitancy with mRNA vaccines. What about J&J? That’s a pretty straight forward vaccine, as I understand it.
That's why I prefer mRNA, it's frankly a simpler process using specifically engineered RNA and protein, vice what some might call a fraken-virus in some traditional vaccine systems (ie J&J). If you look at the pictures above, you can see which vaccine does not actually involve the cell nucleus...
03-22-2021, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It's old school, but in this case that means more complicated an involving an outside biological factor (a completely different virus used as a delivery vehicle).
That's why I prefer mRNA, it's frankly a simpler process using specifically engineered RNA and protein, vice what some might call a fraken-virus in some traditional vaccine systems (ie J&J). If you look at the pictures above, you can see which vaccine does not actually involve the cell nucleus...
That's why I prefer mRNA, it's frankly a simpler process using specifically engineered RNA and protein, vice what some might call a fraken-virus in some traditional vaccine systems (ie J&J). If you look at the pictures above, you can see which vaccine does not actually involve the cell nucleus...
Also, from the investor conferences, Pfizer plans to launch an influenza mRNA vaccine later in the year. I assume they will also have one for the Zika virus soon as well.
Last edited by Mesabah; 03-22-2021 at 08:48 PM.
03-23-2021, 03:39 AM
#539
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Originally Posted by 400000Dead
This is peak arrogance. You're extrapolating your own ignorance and assigning it to experts who have been working on vaccines for decades. All because the topic is over your head, doesn't mean that others haven't figured it out. The plunging infection rate in vaccinated countries should be proof enough.
Darwin's Law - all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations that increase the individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce.
The intelligence to receive a vaccine is an inherited trait. Those who refuse and subsequently perish are very much following evolutionary patterns. Spirited, thanks for keeping the gene pool moving forward.
Darwin's Law - all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations that increase the individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce.
The intelligence to receive a vaccine is an inherited trait. Those who refuse and subsequently perish are very much following evolutionary patterns. Spirited, thanks for keeping the gene pool moving forward.
Lets not forget the intelligence to wear a mask, call riots peaceful protests, think government will be your salvation, virtue signal, etc.You do Sheeple
I'll do 'Murican
You and yours may have your Phyrric victory - time will tell
03-23-2021, 04:02 AM
#540
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Many of the same kind of people who say "Stop being afraid of a virus with a 99.5% chance of survival" appear to have the mindset of "We should be concerned about a vaccine that 99.999% doesn't have significant side effects".
I'm 100% in the "you do you" camp, but do find it funny how humans of all ideological persuasions struggle with risk assessment when it involves their own biases and fears...
Got my first dose of Pfizer yesterday - nothing worse than a sore arm, though I do have 120Mbps download speeds and for some reason woke up hearing the Windows startup sound.
I'm 100% in the "you do you" camp, but do find it funny how humans of all ideological persuasions struggle with risk assessment when it involves their own biases and fears...
Got my first dose of Pfizer yesterday - nothing worse than a sore arm, though I do have 120Mbps download speeds and for some reason woke up hearing the Windows startup sound.
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