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Old 12-28-2020, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
Just because you disagree with that POV doesn't mean it isn't credible.

Human behavior matters, and there's absolutely a psychology aspect to human behavior. Messaging to the public matters when your good-intentioned orders under the auspices of helping the public also harms them, and YES, what our 'betters' do vs. tell us we should do does in fact have an impact on how their requests, pleas, and orders are viewed and complied with...especially after 3/4 of a year.



One might consider that the viewpoint of a 'hoaxer'...but its really the viewpoint of a UCSF infectious disease expert.

Besides, the San Francisco Chronicle isn't exactly a paragon of anti-science, anti-vax, "hoaxer" perspective.

That’s fine, except that the article offers zero solutions to the problems. That’s called being a hoaxer article. Obviously the solution is not to do nothing either as if everything’s fine. At this point though it’s probably too late to do anything other than just nurse things along until the majority get vaccinated. The time for doing something about it was at the beginning.
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Old 12-28-2020, 05:48 PM
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I wasn't aware the Washington Nationals played in Fauci's basement....

Nor does it help when you are allegedly an infectious disease expert yet apparently do not even know how to wear a mask.




California Gov. Gavin Newsom is facing fresh scrutiny for his decision to attend the birthday dinner of a lobbyist earlier this month after photos emerged showing the governor apparently unmasked and in close quarters with a large number of people.

The photos, obtained by Fox 11 Los Angeles and shared on Twitter by reporter Bill Melugin, were circulated widely online on Wednesday.

While Newsom had issued a statement saying he and First Partner Jennifer Siebel Newsom had “followed the restaurant’s health protocols and took safety precautions,” the photo does not depict any social distancing or other precautions the state has urged.

Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...#storylink=cpy
https://www.deseret.com/indepth/2020...i-gavin-newsom


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Old 12-28-2020, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 View Post
That’s fine, except that the article offers zero solutions to the problems. That’s called being a hoaxer article. Obviously the solution is not to do nothing either as if everything’s fine. At this point though it’s probably too late to do anything other than just nurse things along until the majority get vaccinated. The time for doing something about it was at the beginning.
There are no solutions, there never was a “solution”; that’s the solution. They’ve never contained a novel virus by hiding. Individuals can avoid it the infection by these means but not the whole society, we’re too interdependent.
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California is as liberal as it gets. The population has a need to be controlled by their government. They beg for it, and shame those who question authority. As a result, businesses are getting destroyed and people are thrown into poverty. Sorry to tell you this, but California had been hailed in their (over) response to this disease and no one here, especially you, was saying anything otherwise until recently.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hospitals...204450935.html

Is this liberal enough for you?
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
Nor does it help when you are allegedly an infectious disease expert yet apparently do not even know how to wear a mask.






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So you’re saying if Fauci wears the mask over his nose you’d listen?
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 View Post
It sure shows that Cali's drastic measures that have cost people their ability to earn a living have done exactly nothing. Thank you for pointing that out. Meanwhile, the dreaded South Dakota, Most Dangerous Place In The World, no insane lockdown measures........well on the back side of their wave with 400 cases statewide yesterday.
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer View Post
There are no solutions, there never was a “solution”; that’s the solution. They’ve never contained a novel virus by hiding. Individuals can avoid it the infection by these means but not the whole society, we’re too interdependent.
Other countries avoided it pretty good.
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Old 12-28-2020, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 View Post
So you’re saying if Fauci wears the mask over his nose you’d listen?
I’ve listened to Fauci. That’s the problem. The man destroys his own credibility. You can’t quote models to three significant digits and then fess up to it all having been a SWAG and maintain your own credibility. But seriously, how does ANY doctor keep credibility wearing a mask like that?
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons View Post
It sure shows that Cali's drastic measures that have cost people their ability to earn a living have done exactly nothing. Thank you for pointing that out.
What drastic measures? As far as I’ve seen everyone’s been out going about their business. They just can’t sit down and eat at a restaurant. Turn off Fox News. Also what about the lives saved? That’s nothing?
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Other countries avoided it pretty good.
For specific reasons of their culture, geography or politics. We were never stopping for our own culture, politics and geography.
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