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Old 12-28-2020, 07:04 PM
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What drastic measures? As far as I’ve seen everyone’s been out going about their business. Turn off Fox News. Also what about the lives saved? That’s nothing?
There have been no lives saved. California is proof of that. And if you don't think California has had drastic lockdown measures with their shutdown orders, well, who has credibility issues now?
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I’ve listened to Fauci. That’s the problem. The man destroys his own credibility. You can’t quote models to three significant digits and then fess up to it all having been a SWAG and maintain your own credibility. But seriously, how does ANY doctor keep credibility wearing a mask like that?
What about the 99% of the other things that he does right every day for the country? Or the countless experts that agree with his up to 85% vaccination requirements to reach herd immunity? Nobody knows what the true numbers are. Him not covering his nostrils back in April is too much to handle?
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If you need a little help with your credibility - https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-exc...sential-needs/
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Other countries avoided it pretty good.
Except the ones that didn’t. And a lot of those are getting it now

https://time.com/5917855/asia-covid-19-surge/


Japan

Japan is facing an increasingly dire situation as the number of infections rises. Cases began to spike at the beginning of November, and daily infections in the country of 126 million topped 200,000 on Monday.

Tokyo has confirmed almost 11,000 cases so far this month—a record. The country reported 2,658 new cases on Tuesday alone.

Hospitals risk being overwhelmed. About half of the 4,000 hospital beds in Tokyo set aside for COVID-19 patients were full as of last week.
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 View Post
What about the 99% of the other things that he does right every day for the country? Or the countless experts that agree with his up to 85% vaccination requirements to reach herd immunity? Him not covering his nostrils is too much to handle?
Leading by example is basic to leadership. You will NEVER stop this epidemic by government mandate.
1. Not enough cops.
2. Even if you had them, you haven’t even convinced the cops and the prosecutors and the courts.

This isn’t about convincing ME Knobby, it’s about getting the job done.
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Leading by example is basic to leadership. You will NEVER stop this epidemic by government mandate.
1. Not enough cops.
2. Even if you had them, you haven’t even convinced the cops and the prosecutors and the courts.

This isn’t about convincing ME Knobby, it’s about getting the job done.
What about the potus? Took a few months to even wear a mask in public, he still doesn’t. Or to at least look like he took it seriously. He literally controlled how half the country behaved. Where was the example there? Again what about the 99% of the other things that Fauci has done right? You skipped over that part.
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 View Post
What about the potus? Took a few months to even wear a mask in public, he still doesn’t. Or to at least look like he took it seriously. He literally controlled how half the country behaved. Where was the example there? Again what about the 99% of the other things that Fauci has done right? You skipped over that part.
I’d include the POTUS in that group, and the POTUS-to-be as well. Neither has covered the self with glory.

And can you not get it through your head that it is the RESULTS that count? It doesn’t matter if he does 99% of things right, although he clearly hasn’t, it’s the RESULTS that count. The Public Health establishment and the executives in government service have ALL lost credibility with the American people and because of that the outcome is less than it should have been even if they were 99% right, which they clearly have not been.

This is real life and what counts is RESULTS, nothing else. Putative ‘leaders’ don’t get a trophy for just participating.
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California is as liberal as it gets. The population has a need to be controlled by their government. They beg for it, and shame those who question authority. As a result, businesses are getting destroyed and people are thrown into poverty. Sorry to tell you this, but California had been hailed in their (over) response to this disease and no one here, especially you, was saying anything otherwise until recently.
California, like the majority of other states has gone back and forth with their COVID restirctions. No consistency! Thus, they endure what the other states endure with this typical yo-yo effect. I have never praised Claifornia politicians and am not now.

Your worn mantra of labeling and grouping folks in your posts is indeed sad and very telling.
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Sorry if you can't handle the truth. My state is as blue as it gets too and I have witnessed the devastating effects it has had on normal people trying to feed their families. Yet the Karens insist their way is the virtuous way (while either still getting a paycheck or having such an awful work ethic that they'd rather take the government handouts).
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 View Post
What about the 99% of the other things that he does right every day for the country? Or the countless experts that agree with his up to 85% vaccination requirements to reach herd immunity? Nobody knows what the true numbers are. Him not covering his nostrils back in April is too much to handle?
Like his HIV/AIDS work? That worked out well.... Faux-chi is a useful idiot. Nothing more.

The fact you worship the lords of the bureaucrat is troubling. Questioning this guy is proper and our right. You can blindly follow. That is OK too. Many of us will not. Science is a process, not a religion.

We are wide open in my areas of Florida. I even go to Home Depot without a mask. Funny, don't see dead people lying about. No reefer trucks as mobile morgues. And our nurses are making tik tok videos in empty hospital hallways, so things are just fine here. Sorry you are miserable.

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