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05-14-2021, 10:57 AM
#501
Bracing for Fallacies
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Posts: 3,543
Originally Posted by Brillo
If we had the internet/social media in the 1950's, kids would still be f*cking dying of polio right now.
05-14-2021, 11:46 AM
#502
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Economy Minus
Posts: 1,053
Originally Posted by Learflyer
My Delta FA neighbor, in her forties, developed a heart condition after her COVID bout.
05-14-2021, 12:19 PM
#503
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 963
The polio vaccine currently might be killing more than it's saving...
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/polio-cases-now-caused-vaccine-wild-virus-67287290
And there was the 1955 incident in the United States where an improperly prepared batch of polio vaccine killed 10 children and paralyzed 200.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1383764/
The point is that vaccines have risks. No one has a right to force these risks on another person. Most of us aren't vaccine experts, but all of us are in charge of what goes into our bodies nonetheless.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/polio-cases-now-caused-vaccine-wild-virus-67287290
And there was the 1955 incident in the United States where an improperly prepared batch of polio vaccine killed 10 children and paralyzed 200.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1383764/
The point is that vaccines have risks. No one has a right to force these risks on another person. Most of us aren't vaccine experts, but all of us are in charge of what goes into our bodies nonetheless.
05-15-2021, 09:23 AM
#505
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Hoping for any position
Posts: 2,504
[QUOTE=FlewUnderWires;3234742]This is an outright and malicious lie that is spitting in the face of healthcare workers, families, and patients. The claim of deaths being attributed to Covid for money has been proven false and it is ridiculous to imagine that every healthcare worker up and down the chain across the entire world is risking their career to fraudulently attribute patient care to Covid. It is clear you have done zero research outside of conspiracy and misinformation.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile..../idUSKBN22I2KR
https://apnews.com/article/election-...7a5de7bf88bf0c
If anything cases have been undercounted.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ovid-19-in-u-s
https://www.google.com/amp/s/medicalxpress.com/news/2021-05-undercounted-covid-deaths-fauci.amp[/QUOTE]
Well, I don’t know why they did but my grandfather died in his late 80s after being diagnosed with aggressive cancer. He happened to test positive with no symptoms about 4 weeks prior. Guess what was on his death certificate?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile..../idUSKBN22I2KR
https://apnews.com/article/election-...7a5de7bf88bf0c
If anything cases have been undercounted.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ovid-19-in-u-s
https://www.google.com/amp/s/medicalxpress.com/news/2021-05-undercounted-covid-deaths-fauci.amp[/QUOTE]
Well, I don’t know why they did but my grandfather died in his late 80s after being diagnosed with aggressive cancer. He happened to test positive with no symptoms about 4 weeks prior. Guess what was on his death certificate?
05-15-2021, 09:40 AM
#506
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,063
Originally Posted by AYLflyer
The same people who said Covid would be gone on Nov 4th. The same people who said the current President would require vaccine passports by the new year or that the US will require a negative test or a vaccine in order to travel between states or fly on an airplane. The same people who say that others are dying left and right from vaccinations.
These people gossip and spread rumors worse than 16yr old high school girls.
These people gossip and spread rumors worse than 16yr old high school girls.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/honor-system-paper-cards-wont-120011562.html
"
Honor system, paper cards won't cut it for COVID vaccine verification, experts say. 'Vaccine passports' are coming."
05-15-2021, 10:54 AM
#507
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: B777 CA, Ret.
Posts: 77
They won't need paper vaccination passports to see who got the "vaccine". Under HIPPA "patient portability" of the Kennedy-Kassebaum Act under Clinton & the 104th Congress, then furthered under Obama Care, it's already transmitted to your permanent electronic healthcare records (ERH).
When I came down with CV-19 last November, I got a letter (4 months later!) from the county health department informing me I had the virus & needed to follow quarantine protocols. So no true HIPPA or ERH privacy. The EU is doing better on PII that the USA. Especially in the area of misuse & data breeches & other nefarious reasons.
When I came down with CV-19 last November, I got a letter (4 months later!) from the county health department informing me I had the virus & needed to follow quarantine protocols. So no true HIPPA or ERH privacy. The EU is doing better on PII that the USA. Especially in the area of misuse & data breeches & other nefarious reasons.
05-16-2021, 08:07 AM
#508
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Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: 777 Captain in Training
Posts: 1,457
Originally Posted by rickair7777
My observation and experience has been that they collect your health insurance info, so yeah they know who you are if needed. Setting up a Db (multiple Db's more likely) would take a lot of work and time, and they'll probably only bother (in the US) if this drags out for another year+.
It is actually federal law that providers maintain electronic data on your healthcare (EMR Mandate, etc), so the data is out there somewhere.
It is actually federal law that providers maintain electronic data on your healthcare (EMR Mandate, etc), so the data is out there somewhere.
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05-16-2021, 08:16 AM
#509
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Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: 777 Captain in Training
Posts: 1,457
Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires
This is an outright and malicious lie that is spitting in the face of healthcare workers, families, and patients. The claim of deaths being attributed to Covid for money has been proven false and it is ridiculous to imagine that every healthcare worker up and down the chain across the entire world is risking their career to fraudulently attribute patient care to Covid. It is clear you have done zero research outside of conspiracy and misinformation.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile..../idUSKBN22I2KR
https://apnews.com/article/election-...7a5de7bf88bf0c
If anything cases have been undercounted.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ovid-19-in-u-s
https://www.google.com/amp/s/medical...aths-fauci.amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile..../idUSKBN22I2KR
https://apnews.com/article/election-...7a5de7bf88bf0c
If anything cases have been undercounted.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ovid-19-in-u-s
https://www.google.com/amp/s/medical...aths-fauci.amp
https://youtu.be/Tw9Ci2PZKZg
Also Federally here.
https://youtu.be/blZpgra3XbU
05-16-2021, 10:16 AM
#510
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Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 186
Originally Posted by HIFLYR
Well here is the Illinois official stating any death that had a positive COVID test was counted as a Death by COVID regardless of how they died. So yes the the actual deaths by COVID are in doubt.
https://youtu.be/Tw9Ci2PZKZg
Also Federally here.
https://youtu.be/blZpgra3XbU
https://youtu.be/Tw9Ci2PZKZg
Also Federally here.
https://youtu.be/blZpgra3XbU
https://wgntv.com/news/wgn-investigates/how-accurate-is-illinois-count-of-deaths-caused-by-coronavirus-we-asked-the-experts/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/dr-ngozi-ezike-refutes-notion-that-illinois-is-over-counting-covid-19-deaths/2270810/%3famp
And they still get their data from hospitals which are not fraudulently reporting numbers. And also research to minimize deaths falsely attributed to Covid. Either way the excess deaths are WELL above what has been classified as covid.
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