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Old 03-31-2021, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Forman View Post
You realize the popular vote has nothing to do with electing presidents don’t you?
For now yes. But in thread context the popular vote could be seen as AN indicator of the popularity of a candidate or platform across the country.

If we’re lucky this will pass in a few more states: https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

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Yes, on the voting, ID required, not certain about the pay. Those bills are to ensure the legitimacy of the vote, mailing out ballots to anyone, not producing ID, not recording change of addresses, not recording on voting rolls deaths, there’s a hundred holes in the system.
Well, finding a way to get every qualified voter access to the polls is a start. I disagree on the purported purpose of many of these bills.

I’m curious how mail-in voting was always okay for State Department and Military but wrong for others. I registered once and was sent a ballot every year. I didn’t have to go back and re-register every year. I also didn’t have to re-register for selective service every year. At a minimum, paying your taxes every year or renewing your drivers license should register you to vote and you should be able to request a mail-in ballot. A lot of employees, including airline pilots need mail-in ballots. So do elderly and disabled folks. As for ID requirements, we’d also have to address the thousands of people that grew up in the foster system and have a hard time getting historical documents.
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Old 03-31-2021, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronaldo View Post
For now yes. But in thread context the popular vote could be seen as AN indicator of the popularity of a candidate or platform across the country.

Actually it does exactly the opposite of that. It allows about 6 cities to elect a national president in opposition to what is popular “across the country”


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Old 03-31-2021, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
Actually it does exactly the opposite of that. It allows about 6 cities to elect a national president in opposition to what is popular “across the country”


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Your alternative is to disenfranchise millions of Americans to make sure rural white voters have more of a voice. Got it.
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Old 03-31-2021, 11:14 AM
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Your alternative is to disenfranchise millions of Americans to make sure rural white voters have more of a voice. Got it.
I love it when the younger types demonstrate they forgot to pay attention in school.

These United States are what's known as a "Representative Republic." The Fathers were presented with the difficult decision of being a single united collection of states or a bunch of small countries similar to Europe. They wisely chose to become the United States with each State electing representatives to the Federal Government. They also chose wisely to actually give a representative vote, for the President of this Republic, to each State!

When, and it will most likely happen, the election becomes purely a popular vote the Democracy is truly ended and a very small area of the USA will elect their representative and leave out most of the USA. The states with small populations will essentially have ZERO representation for their vote!

Your RACIST statement about white verse others is pure BS and reveals a hatred in you for what is good and true. You should fully be ashamed.

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Old 03-31-2021, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy View Post

Your RACIST statement about white verse others is pure BS and reveals a hatred in you for what is good and true. You should fully be ashamed.

Learn and respect your history!
I can almost see your pearl clutching. Which tells me that you're scared. Deep down you know exactly what's going on.

You made a good point about the foundations of the Electoral College. But then you got hysterical.

You rally to the defense of the flyover states, meanwhile disregarding the cities. Why? Why should the nation be tyranically led by the least populous, least productive, and least educated states?
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Old 03-31-2021, 11:49 AM
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I can almost see your pearl clutching. Which tells me that you're scared. Deep down you know exactly what's going on.

You made a good point about the foundations of the Electoral College. But then you got hysterical.

You rally to the defense of the flyover states, meanwhile disregarding the cities. Why? Why should the nation be tyranically led by the least populous, least productive, and least educated states?

You are so full of BS it just never ends. You know nothing about people, the history of our Nation nor seem to have a clue to where it's headed.

Let's make your statement a bit more accurate:

Why should the nation be tyranically led by the least productive consumers, in the smallest land areas, whose arrogance far exceeds their education, and know nothing about the lives of those more than three blocks away?


Your ignorance and arrogance both exceed your rhetoric.


And there nothing hysterical about pointing out the RACIST nature of your point. It should also be pointed out you broad brush and insult of so many people with your racist statement about education. It also demonstrates your "elitist" self righteous attitudes.

Shame on you!
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Old 03-31-2021, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy View Post
You are so full of BS it just never ends. You know nothing about people, the history of our Nation nor seem to have a clue to where it's headed.

Let's make your statement a bit more accurate:

Why should the nation be tyranically led by the least productive consumers, in the smallest land areas, whose arrogance far exceeds their education, and know nothing about the lives of those more than three blocks away?


Your ignorance and arrogance both exceed your rhetoric.


And there nothing hysterical about pointing out the RACIST nature of your point. It should also be pointed out you broad brush and insult of so many people with your racist statement about education. It also demonstrates your "elitist" self righteous attitudes.

Shame on you!
We get it! You call it the War of Northern Aggression. No need to dogwhistle so much.
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Old 03-31-2021, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires View Post
We get it! You call it the War of Northern Aggression. No need to dogwhistle so much.

In case you missed it, this is directed at the other poster. But, if you feel a bit of guilt and fall into a similar genre as the poster, well so be it.

And I'm not calling it the war of anything.

BTW are you really new here or just doing the old "rebrand" thing by starting a new screen name? 10 whole posts?
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Old 03-31-2021, 12:13 PM
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Legitimate new guy. Long time/first time sort of thing. But so many people have asked that at this point I’m not sure if it is paranoia or projection.
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Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires View Post
Legitimate new guy. Long time/first time sort of thing. But so many people have asked that at this point I’m not sure if it is paranoia or projection.

Nope, not paranoia or projection. This is a place where we can be semi anonymous and some posters, for fun maybe, rebrand to take another tack or start another fire.

It really doesn’t matter. For that matter everything written here will not change a thing, especially the direction the USA is headed.

What may happen is it causes each of us to actually investigate a bit more on the hot subjects to see if our opinions really have foundations greater than watching CNN, or reading the NY Times…

Maybe we will become more thoughtful people? Maybe not.
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