Grumpyaviator

My dr(an md), AME (an md), knee and shoulder surgeons (mds), my SIL, who is experiencing serious health issues after the jnj, her dr(an md) all oppose the mask and now are questioning the vax.

My SILs dr(an md) says that he and his peers are seeing what appears to be serious side effects and believes that many are being under reported.

FlewUnderWires

Again.....the complaint was about proving that most doctors say masks are bad. I showed proof of groups of doctors publicly and collectively begging for mask mandates. Being upset about it isn’t going to change the fact that most doctors are in favor of them. And it is really interesting that none of the anecdotes of doctors who oppose them are pulmonologists, ID, or ER docs.

Red Forman

Literally no one said most doctors except for you.

Regularguy

Flew,

Again, it appears you have a reading comprehension problem. No one is upset about “it” at all and the “ complaint” was only about your unsupported statement. Again… you just googled and selected the ones supporting your position and bias, while ignoring the previously linked legit research report on the ability of masking to stop the spread and infection of COVID in a population. The research report did not say masks don’t slow and reduce the distance of human vapor and mist, it simply and effectively reviewed the question of COVID spread, but you knew that.

You also fail to recognize a large group of posters have legitimate personal experiences with their medical professionals and not just some google search.

As I previously reported, it appears the pandemic is essentially over and the threat of serious illness and death is back in the normal range for the USA. It also seems Fauci is who he is and hanging onto what he does best. True, he is not concerned about personal freedoms and law, it’s just not his thing.

It’s time to let this go!

FlewUnderWires

Regular challenged the notion

Red Forman

Move those goalposts...

Regularguy

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Flew I hope you don’t fly for an airline and people trust their lives to you. Please read and compare what is being written here.

let’s make this perfectly clear, I challenged your blanket unsupported statement, not the idea there may actually be more medical professionals who want to keep mask mandates.

This is not a complicated thing to understand.

FlewUnderWires

And I backed up my blanket statement. Feels like you are the one deflecting and moving goalposts. This wasn’t about mask efficacy. Or Do you just challenge what others are doing? If most pilots are going around a thunderstorm do you plow on through?

Knobcrk1

How can you claim that the threat of serious illness and death is back in the normal range? What does that even mean? If you get the virus right now, you still have a higher chance of hospitalization or death compared to the flu. Especially if you belong in certain demographics. The only way it’s theoretically over is if you have the majority vaccinated. Only 25% are fully vaccinated. Until then we all still have to follow the mandates because you can get someone sick. Not sure if you know but the US is not the only country in the world right? Do you know this virus is happening around the world too?

highfarfast

To be fair, if those "belonging in a certain demographics" aren't fully vaccinated by now, they've made the choice not to be.