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PNWFlyer 09-17-2021 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3296784)
Is Alaska not offering any incentive for pilots to get vaccinated? No LOA or anything that covers this?

first prize is $200
second prize is a set of steak knives.
third prize is you’re fired.

MiLtoMajor123 09-17-2021 05:59 PM

Soooooo.....what about us peeps who have immunity already from getting Covid? Dont really care about the $$$ incentives.....I kind of really care about the Union AND Company caving to top down Government control of Health decisions........specifically with a virus that is 99% survivable. I like my chances given that getting the Vaccine WILL NOT keep me from getting or passing Covid. WTF is going on here. New studies have shown that natural immunity is stronger than the vaccine. Why haven't we heard anything about this? Who's misinformation do we trust? lol

NewGuy01 09-17-2021 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by MiLtoMajor123 (Post 3296813)
Soooooo.....what about us peeps who have immunity already from getting Covid? Dont really care about the $$$ incentives.....I kind of really care about the Union AND Company caving to top down Government control of Health decisions........specifically with a virus that is 99% survivable. I like my chances given that getting the Vaccine WILL NOT keep me from getting or passing Covid. WTF is going on here. New studies have shown that natural immunity is stronger than the vaccine. Why haven't we heard anything about this? Who's misinformation do we trust? lol


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MiLtoMajor123 09-17-2021 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by NewGuy01 (Post 3296814)
Third prize


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That's some deep insight there.

nene 09-17-2021 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by MiLtoMajor123 (Post 3296813)
Soooooo.....what about us peeps who have immunity already from getting Covid? Dont really care about the $$$ incentives.....I kind of really care about the Union AND Company caving to top down Government control of Health decisions........specifically with a virus that is 99% survivable. I like my chances given that getting the Vaccine WILL NOT keep me from getting or passing Covid. WTF is going on here. New studies have shown that natural immunity is stronger than the vaccine. Why haven't we heard anything about this? Who's misinformation do we trust? lol

So far the only way to show your allegiance to the Borg is to get the vaccine, or maybe wear two masks......that is all the powers to be are recognizing so far.

In my case, hadn't caught the vid yet and surely didn't want to catch and show symptoms while in a foreign country, I generally try to stay out of foreign medical systems.

flyprdu 09-17-2021 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by MiLtoMajor123 (Post 3296813)
Soooooo.....what about us peeps who have immunity already from getting Covid? Dont really care about the $$$ incentives.....I kind of really care about the Union AND Company caving to top down Government control of Health decisions........specifically with a virus that is 99% survivable. I like my chances given that getting the Vaccine WILL NOT keep me from getting or passing Covid. WTF is going on here. New studies have shown that natural immunity is stronger than the vaccine. Why haven't we heard anything about this? Who's misinformation do we trust? lol

You'd think after so many people, especially coworkers we know, have died from COVID that people would stop using these tired talking points. But nope.

Even if COVID doesn't kill you, there's a good chance that it could kick your ass.

MiLtoMajor123 09-17-2021 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3296877)
You'd think after so many people, especially coworkers we know, have died from COVID that people would stop using these tired talking points. But nope.


Even if COVID doesn't kill you, there's a good chance that it could kick your ass.


I agree it's tragic that some people have died of Covid. My heart is with their families.


Having said that....that is not what position I am in. I've had Covid. I survived. I have antibodies. Those antibodies are reportedly equal to or better than getting the Vaccine. Why do I need the Vaccine? Why hasn't this been addressed by the company (kind of) or the Union (not directly)?


These aren't talking points.......Covid is 99% survivable. Even more so for younger healthier individuals. That survivability % is of the known cases of Covid.....and its estimated that Cases are underestimated because people who have had it never got sick. Weird virus eh?


Again, this is not to downplay those who have died. My heart feels for anyone who hasn't made it!

echelon 09-17-2021 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by MiLtoMajor123 (Post 3296889)
Those antibodies are reportedly equal to or better than getting the Vaccine.

What's your source for this? And can you also go ahead and cite a source for how long your natural immunity is good for versus how long your immunity from a vaccine would be good for?

av8or 09-18-2021 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by echelon (Post 3296891)
What's your source for this? And can you also go ahead and cite a source for how long your natural immunity is good for versus how long your immunity from a vaccine would be good for?

How bout you cite a source for how long your vaccine immunity is. Here’s what I can tell you and I’ve provided my testing to the Union.

I was exposed by flying with a captain diagnosed with Covid. Even though I exhibited no symptoms, a week after the exposure, I got a PCR test. Came back positive. Then a week later I got a quantitative antibody test from Abbot labs. On a scale of <.8 U/ml (virtually zero antibodies) to 2500 U/ml my score was >2500 U/ml. On one Covid message board that was equal to or more than two doses of Moderna. I have Zero problem getting an antibody test every three months or so.

ELAC321 09-18-2021 02:59 AM


Originally Posted by echelon (Post 3296891)
What's your source for this? And can you also go ahead and cite a source for how long your natural immunity is good for versus how long your immunity from a vaccine would be good for?

Israel pre print studies showing natural immunity 13x stronger and lasting longer. With strongest protection being natural immunity plus 1 shot.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/delta-variant-what-kind-of-immunity-offers-the-highest-protection#Natural-immunity-and-one-vaccination-may-offer-best-protection


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