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Old 09-29-2021 | 10:01 AM
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So 593 employees are being terminated, including 20 pilots and a little less than 100 FA’s.

United is working around 2,000 religious and medical exemptions. I honestly don’t believe there is any reasonable accommodation that would allow a pilot to remain a pilot. I agree that offering them a remote position (if qualified) at that pay (ie, reservation agent) is about the only reasonable accommodation that works for pilots.

I wonder how long before the balance of those pilots included in the 2,000 total employees are removed from the pilot seniority list.
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Old 09-29-2021 | 11:09 AM
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The really disturbing part in this entire situation is that most of the employees of this company don’t see a problem with this. Where does it end??
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Old 09-29-2021 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
So 593 employees are being terminated, including 20 pilots and a little less than 100 FA’s.

United is working around 2,000 religious and medical exemptions. I honestly don’t believe there is any reasonable accommodation that would allow a pilot to remain a pilot. I agree that offering them a remote position (if qualified) at that pay (ie, reservation agent) is about the only reasonable accommodation that works for pilots.

I wonder how long before the balance of those pilots included in the 2,000 total employees are removed from the pilot seniority list.
The ones that may be terminated either did not request a reasonable accommodation or did not meet whatever threshold was established for a valid request.

Amongst the pilots that were among those granted an accommodation what would prevent them from flying domestically if they are already in a NB position? I don’t understand how being unvaccinated prevents them from doing their job. The system that we have under the LOA seems to be working pretty well.
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Old 09-29-2021 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
The ones that may be terminated either did not request a reasonable accommodation or did not meet whatever threshold was established for a valid request.

Amongst the pilots that were among those granted an accommodation what would prevent them from flying domestically if they are already in a NB position? I don’t understand how being unvaccinated prevents them from doing their job. The system that we have under the LOA seems to be working pretty well.
The LOA is no longer in effect.

This will be decided by a judge.
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Old 09-29-2021 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
The LOA is no longer in effect.

This will be decided by a judge.
Yes, but this thread is on a hypothetical.
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Old 09-29-2021 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
Yes, but this thread is on a hypothetical.

Why did it go away? Was it a date or a metric was met? That’s unfortunate because it might have provided some leverage where management would need to engage with Alpa.
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Old 09-29-2021 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
Why did it go away? Was it a date or a metric was met?

The LOA I’m referring to was about vaccination. The company gave 30-day notice of termination last month, so it’s over.
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Old 09-29-2021 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
The LOA I’m referring to was about vaccination. The company gave 30-day notice of termination last month, so it’s over.
understood. More than likely that’s Either party could give 30 day notice. Ours goes away when WHO declares pandemic over. Which is some leverage as right now they still have to cover unvaxxed sick leave. Sounds like you might have more than one pandemic Loa?
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Old 09-29-2021 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
So 593 employees are being terminated, including 20 pilots and a little less than 100 FA’s.

United is working around 2,000 religious and medical exemptions. I honestly don’t believe there is any reasonable accommodation that would allow a pilot to remain a pilot. I agree that offering them a remote position (if qualified) at that pay (ie, reservation agent) is about the only reasonable accommodation that works for pilots.

I wonder how long before the balance of those pilots included in the 2,000 total employees are removed from the pilot seniority list.
“reasonable accommodation” doesn’t require the employee (pilot) to fill same job position or require company to use pilot pay scales… they’ll probably be offered call center positions that stay at home or unpaid leave. There has to be a pilot on here that has been approved… bueller?
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Old 09-29-2021 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
“reasonable accommodation” doesn’t require the employee (pilot) to fill same job position or require company to use pilot pay scales… they’ll probably be offered call center positions that stay at home or unpaid leave. There has to be a pilot on here that has been approved… bueller?
They already said that the reasonable accommodation for religious purposes was unpaid leave.
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