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Old 10-05-2021 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
It’s completely relevant. The company made a policy that makes them ineligible to exercise their certificate for a medical reason. It’s the language of the UPA verbatim.

I’m not aware of a pilot who was put on a unpaid leave who had a medical exemption for the yellow fever vaccine, are you?
Wow... i just can't follow that logic to be honest. I get what you're saying but it's a real stretch. We're going to have to see this play out.
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Old 10-05-2021 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskyWhisky
https://youtu.be/On5RYFbcxWY

URGENT.
why not BOMBSHELL
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Old 10-05-2021 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
The list of destinations requiring a yellow fever vaccine is very small and only affects a few pilots, while the list of restrictive countries due to covid affects every fleet.

Yes, that’s not what we’re talking about, though.
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Old 10-05-2021 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
Wow... i just can't follow that logic to be honest. I get what you're saying but it's a real stretch. We're going to have to see this play out.

Yes, I just hope they are afforded the rights due to them in the UPA. I’m not talking about the crazies who think the vaccine will make them magnetic or alter their DNA, but people who have real medical reasons to not get vaccinated like severe allergic reactions, complicating heart conditions, etc. They shouldn’t just be put on the street when the alternative is death.
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Old 10-05-2021 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskyWhisky
https://youtu.be/On5RYFbcxWY

URGENT.
You are going to take the word of an unshaven man who can't feed himself without getting food on his face vs all the peer reviewed, published studies done showing more robust protection from the vaccine? The CDC recommends vaccination even for those recovered from covid. There is no guarantee which strain you had or if you had a severe enough case to build antibodies. Just take a gander at the numbers last week in NJ 96% (42 vaccinated out of 1000) of hospitalizations are from the unvaccinated population. It is pretty difficult to come to the conclusion that the vaccine isn't working when you look at real data.

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Old 10-05-2021 | 06:00 AM
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But it said URGENT. Doesn't that count for anything anymore?
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Old 10-05-2021 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
Yes, I just hope they are afforded the rights due to them in the UPA. I’m not talking about the crazies who think the vaccine will make them magnetic or alter their DNA, but people who have real medical reasons to not get vaccinated like severe allergic reactions, complicating heart conditions, etc. They shouldn’t just be put on the street when the alternative is death.
In those rare cases I'd agree with you. It's a very high bar though.
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Old 10-05-2021 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
In those rare cases I'd agree with you. It's a very high bar though.
I don't think anyone disagrees with case by case legitimate medical conditions.. I'd like to see honest examples of them though. And for what it's worth preference for an un-offered treatment isn't qualifying.
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Old 10-05-2021 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
Yes, that’s not what we’re talking about, though.
I understand that, but a large list affecting all fleets fuels the company argument about non vaccinated pilots being a costly burden, and therefore affecting what a judge will consider unreasonable.
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Old 10-05-2021 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
I understand that, but a large list affecting all fleets fuels the company argument about non vaccinated pilots being a costly burden, and therefore affecting what a judge will consider unreasonable.

Ok, you were replying to a discussion about whether a medical condition prohibiting you from getting the vaccine qualified someone for LTD by the terms of the policy/UPA if the company mandates unpaid leave as an accommodation. I’m not really sure what you’re saying has to do with that, unless you are saying they should just be terminated and therefore not qualify for LTD, which ends on termination.

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