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10-06-2021 | 01:40 PM
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10-06-2021 | 05:26 PM
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So to sum up your opinion the vaccine is a conspiracy, the testing data showing it works is a conspiracy covering multiple hospitals, the entire medical community disregarding anti-parasitic medications for a viral infection is a conspiracy, but the one person who isn't a complete conspiracy hack that you will defend is the guy who works at pfizer on a candid camera with food on his face? The leaps of logic needed to get to this point is absolutely frightening.
I don't listen to any one source and I haven't mentioned Fauci or politics once. You keep wanting this to be a political thing and it isn't. Your views are in the minority for a reason among all political parties. The majority of published studies refute everything you have said about horse medicine, the vaccine, and your pure fantastical conspiracy theories. If the hospital numbers showing 96% of new cases are from the unvaccinated wouldn't the deaths from covid be skewed as well? 2 vaccinated deaths out of 122 total covid deaths in that same week in NJ. Or are we just ignoring it because it doesn't fit your agenda?
I don't listen to any one source and I haven't mentioned Fauci or politics once. You keep wanting this to be a political thing and it isn't. Your views are in the minority for a reason among all political parties. The majority of published studies refute everything you have said about horse medicine, the vaccine, and your pure fantastical conspiracy theories. If the hospital numbers showing 96% of new cases are from the unvaccinated wouldn't the deaths from covid be skewed as well? 2 vaccinated deaths out of 122 total covid deaths in that same week in NJ. Or are we just ignoring it because it doesn't fit your agenda?
It’s not just one janitor from Pfizer. There are 3 scientists from Pfizer ALL saying the same thing. This isn’t even new information. It’s been common knowledge for decades that natural immunity is always better than vaccinations. Even Dr. Fauci doesn’t refute that. Now all the sudden, you’re a medical expert that claims that’s a conspiracy. The Pfizer scientists say their vaccines only protects against one part of the virus while natural immunity protects against multiple parts. Are you saying you’re more knowledgeable on the subject than the very scientists that actually developed a vaccine. Again, this isn’t just from Pfizer. Any doctor will tell you the same thing. You are anti-science.
Yes the deaths were at least skewed at one point. Its still unconfirmed on whether public health officials are counting deaths in the same manner as last year. Being that they’ll currently count an unvaccinated person with a broken arm as a covid patient if they test positive… I can’t imagine why they wouldnt count deaths in the same manner. Last year, numerous public health officials publicly stated that they count any death as covid as long as they test positive… even if its a car accident, suicide, murder victim, or drug overdose. Need the links? Not that it matters since you think everything is a conspiracy.
The vaccines are so effective, the United States now has more Covid deaths in 2021 with 50% of the population FULLY vaccinated than the number of deaths we had in all of 2020 when NO ONE was vaccinated. Should I post the data for other countries as well?
10-06-2021 | 05:31 PM
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How many of those unvaxxed are there for something completely unrelated to Covid? Almost every hospital now tests anyone for Covid if they’re not vaccinated even if they come in for a broken arm. If they test positive they get counted as a covid hospitalization. If you’re vaccinated you don’t get tested. Unless, you’re actually there for covid. Maybe I’m way off, the ICUs are so overrun with covid patients that hospitals can afford to fire 10-20% of their workforce for being unvaccinated even though we’re in the middle of a worldwide pandemic.
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10-06-2021 | 06:21 PM
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I never said the vaccines are a conspiracy.
It’s not just one janitor from Pfizer. There are 3 scientists from Pfizer ALL saying the same thing. This isn’t even new information. It’s been common knowledge for decades that natural immunity is always better than vaccinations. Even Dr. Fauci doesn’t refute that. Now all the sudden, you’re a medical expert that claims that’s a conspiracy. The Pfizer scientists say their vaccines only protects against one part of the virus while natural immunity protects against multiple parts. Are you saying you’re more knowledgeable on the subject than the very scientists that actually developed a vaccine. Again, this isn’t just from Pfizer. Any doctor will tell you the same thing. You are anti-science.
Yes the deaths were at least skewed at one point. Its still unconfirmed on whether public health officials are counting deaths in the same manner as last year. Being that they’ll currently count an unvaccinated person with a broken arm as a covid patient if they test positive… I can’t imagine why they wouldnt count deaths in the same manner. Last year, numerous public health officials publicly stated that they count any death as covid as long as they test positive… even if its a car accident, suicide, murder victim, or drug overdose. Need the links? Not that it matters since you think everything is a conspiracy.
The vaccines are so effective, the United States now has more Covid deaths in 2021 with 50% of the population FULLY vaccinated than the number of deaths we had in all of 2020 when NO ONE was vaccinated. Should I post the data for other countries as well?
It’s not just one janitor from Pfizer. There are 3 scientists from Pfizer ALL saying the same thing. This isn’t even new information. It’s been common knowledge for decades that natural immunity is always better than vaccinations. Even Dr. Fauci doesn’t refute that. Now all the sudden, you’re a medical expert that claims that’s a conspiracy. The Pfizer scientists say their vaccines only protects against one part of the virus while natural immunity protects against multiple parts. Are you saying you’re more knowledgeable on the subject than the very scientists that actually developed a vaccine. Again, this isn’t just from Pfizer. Any doctor will tell you the same thing. You are anti-science.
Yes the deaths were at least skewed at one point. Its still unconfirmed on whether public health officials are counting deaths in the same manner as last year. Being that they’ll currently count an unvaccinated person with a broken arm as a covid patient if they test positive… I can’t imagine why they wouldnt count deaths in the same manner. Last year, numerous public health officials publicly stated that they count any death as covid as long as they test positive… even if its a car accident, suicide, murder victim, or drug overdose. Need the links? Not that it matters since you think everything is a conspiracy.
The vaccines are so effective, the United States now has more Covid deaths in 2021 with 50% of the population FULLY vaccinated than the number of deaths we had in all of 2020 when NO ONE was vaccinated. Should I post the data for other countries as well?
10-06-2021 | 06:48 PM
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96% of cases in nj are from the unvaccinated population. The numbers aren't fake. If they were they would correlate to the the # of deaths which line up. This isn't some crackpot indian horse paste study. The vaccine is working quite well according to data coming out of every reputable source over and over again except for the blaze.com, or some web address hosted by @hotmail email address, or some other conspiracy website. No sane individual is giving your nonsense a second thought.
I never said your hospitalization numbers are fake. I’m sure they’re very real. But what’s also very real is the fact that a lot of those “covid” hospitalizations are there for reasons completely unrelated to covid. That data point isn’t from [email protected]… its from “The Atlantic”. How else do you explain 2021 deaths being higher than 2020 when NO ONE was vaccinated. Look it up yourself. Google uses data reported from the New York Times and the CDC to report those numbers. They don’t use [email protected].
Here’s some more interesting data points from Harvard and the European Journal of Epidemiology. I know… those two sources are known for their crackpot conspiracies but I digress…
Covid cases are unrelated to vaccination rates measured in 68 countries and 2,947 counties in the U.S.
“In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people. Notably, Israel with over 60% of their population fully vaccinated (2 doses plus a booster) had the highest COVID-19 cases per 1 million people in the last 7 days.”
“Of the top 5 counties that have the highest percentage of population fully vaccinated (99.9–84.3%), the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) identifies 4 of them as “High” Transmission counties. Chattahoochee (Georgia), McKinley (New Mexico), and Arecibo (Puerto Rico) counties have above 90% of their population fully vaccinated with all three being classified as “High” transmission. Conversely, of the 57 counties that have been classified as “low” transmission counties by the CDC, 26.3% (15) have percentage of population fully vaccinated below 20%.”
The last stat is specifically from the CDC. I didn’t get that from [email protected]. Is the CDC now a conspiracy theorist according to you now?
Heres the full article. Again, from Harvard and European Journal of Epidemiology. Not hotmail
https://link.springer.com/article/10...54-021-00808-7
10-06-2021 | 06:57 PM
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10-06-2021 | 07:22 PM
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