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Old 10-08-2021 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 400000Dead
Aww.. nice pivot to more talking points. Vaccines are still 92%+ effective for keeping people out of hospitals, regardless of duration.

I bet you're a 'no condom' guy. They're only 99% effective.
Except you're talking about transmission in the cockpit, which appears the shot is not doing a good job of. 20% protection from getting the disease, which in turn results in spread. In fact, we now know previously infected do a better job fighting the virus than the vaccinated.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/delta-does-not-appear-children-184145095.html

Science. Not narrative.
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Old 10-08-2021 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Would be interesting to see just how quickly those BMI's would change if the company were able to mandate "6 months to shape up, or ship out."

Military does a good job with PT and weight standard enforcement. Something about a hanging concentrating the mind wonderfully.
Are you sure about that ? I saw an Air Force woman in uniform that looked to be pushing 250lbs. Must have been a special order uniform
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Old 10-08-2021 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
Except you're talking about transmission in the cockpit, which appears the shot is not doing a good job of. 20% protection from getting the disease, which in turn results in spread. In fact, we now know previously infected do a better job fighting the virus than the vaccinated.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/delta-doe...184145095.html

Science. Not narrative.
From the article YOU posted:

"While a natural infection may induce maturation of antibodies with broader activity than a vaccine does, a natural infection can also kill you," said study leader Michel Nussenzweig of Rockefeller University, in a statement. "A vaccine won't do that and, in fact, protects against the risk of serious illness or death from infection."
It's really remarkable how you can continue to make a case for something that none of your sources support.
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Old 10-08-2021 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 400000Dead
From the article YOU posted:



It's really remarkable how you can continue to make a case for something that none of your sources support.
So explain why vaccinated people still die from the virus. And the vaccine. Additionally, my argument was regarding previously infected people. You weave such a tangled web that you have no idea what you're arguing against.
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Old 10-08-2021 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
So explain why vaccinated people still die from the virus. And the vaccine.
Explain why some girls still get pregnant when using condoms.
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Old 10-08-2021 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 400000Dead
Explain why some girls still get pregnant when using condoms.
Great, another comparison that has nothing to do with the immune system. Keep 'em coming.
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Old 10-08-2021 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
Additionally, my argument was regarding previously infected people. You weave such a tangled web that you have no idea what you're arguing against.
These edits of yours are really lame:

How will the previously infected prove it? Will they willfully submit to testing when asked? Who will pay for that testing since it is about 20x-30x the cost of a vaccine? And that doesn't even account for the infrastructure and manpower costs needed for mass antibody testing.

Why not stick a needle in their arm and be done with it? It's safe and effective, especially if they already had it.

You don't live in reality if you think there are viable alternatives to mass vaccination.
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Old 10-08-2021 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
Great, another comparison that has nothing to do with the immune system. Keep 'em coming.
The logic is the same. The vaccine isn't 100% effective, so to you it's worthless.

A condom isn't 100% in stopping pregnancies, so to you it's also worthless.
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Old 10-08-2021 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
Great, another comparison that has nothing to do with the immune system. Keep 'em coming.
You should try the IGNORE feature. It's fantastic. Only have a few on there. But it improves the quality of the site.
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Old 10-08-2021 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MIddle3rd
You should try the IGNORE feature. It's fantastic. Only have a few on there. But it improves the quality of the site.

❤️❤️❤️ Feel free to forfeit the debate anytime you like.

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