“Reasonable Accommodation”
09-30-2021 | 03:20 PM
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In a word it would be… impossible! Each and every one of these freedom loving personal choice jokers would throw each and every one of us under the bus for a few extra bucks or a chance to have their proverbial cake and eat it to. This is the closest that I hope I ever see to a truly global crisis and while the entirety of the world is moving in one direction these forum doctors/lawyers/research-fellows have the key to solving this crisis that not shockingly involves doing everything they want to do and sacrificing nothing. It’s that often misinterpreted religious tenet of be selfish and do whatever you want to do even if it harms your neighbor.
Glad to see we’re at 99%, also glad that those in the 1% without a real medical or religious exemption are about to find out that decisions have consequences! Buh-bye sorry not sorry!
Glad to see we’re at 99%, also glad that those in the 1% without a real medical or religious exemption are about to find out that decisions have consequences! Buh-bye sorry not sorry!
09-30-2021 | 03:59 PM
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And that could likely lead to a more senior pilot being reassigned to do undesirable (for them) flying at an increase cost to the company to comply with a reassignment. This not only adds more than a "de minimus" cost to United but it is a violation of our UPA in terms of seniority rights. Any reasonable accommodation must not cost the company more money to implement nor can it violate the rights of the other unionized employees within a work group.
Understand, I think anyone still holding out is grossly miscalculating the risk/benefit balance of this vaccine- but I do hate to see anyone lose their career over it.
09-30-2021 | 04:24 PM
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I get all that; and overwhelmingly I think where conflicts arise, the burden should fall on the ineligible pilot & not the company. Considering the small number of pilots who fall into this category, though, I think it could be done with relatively little disruption. If not, I could see going so far as restricting said pilots to the Airbus- where the route network has minimal chance for conflict. And yes, some of that could require union consensus.
Understand, I think anyone still holding out is grossly miscalculating the risk/benefit balance of this vaccine- but I do hate to see anyone lose their career over it.
Understand, I think anyone still holding out is grossly miscalculating the risk/benefit balance of this vaccine- but I do hate to see anyone lose their career over it.
09-30-2021 | 06:56 PM
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09-30-2021 | 07:50 PM
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[QUOTE=13n144e;3302576]God help us if we ever have to do a real strike again. I can hear it now; “ A picket line? But that violates my geographical autonomy!!”[/QUOT
Again? That's funny. Last strike was almost 40 years ago. We've had our balls handed to us for the last 2 years and haven't done a thing to stand up against any of it. Our group is a bunch of gutless, broke, no savings account having, pussies. Most can't pay their bills if they missed one paycheck. They'll never be another strike. We're past amendable by 2 years. Wanna bet a soda we don't have a contract in the next year?
Again? That's funny. Last strike was almost 40 years ago. We've had our balls handed to us for the last 2 years and haven't done a thing to stand up against any of it. Our group is a bunch of gutless, broke, no savings account having, pussies. Most can't pay their bills if they missed one paycheck. They'll never be another strike. We're past amendable by 2 years. Wanna bet a soda we don't have a contract in the next year?
09-30-2021 | 07:59 PM
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[QUOTE=MIddle3rd;3302595][QUOTE=13n144e;3302576]God help us if we ever have to do a real strike again. I can hear it now; “ A picket line? But that violates my geographical autonomy!!”[/QUOT
No.
Wanna bet a soda we don't have a contract in the next year?
09-30-2021 | 08:02 PM
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That's reasonable too. Fed needs to collect the data on natural immunity, quantify it, and implement an appropriate passport. Natural immunity is becoming a significant factor (but naturally the bureaucrats will need the data to CYA).
10-01-2021 | 12:21 AM
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HA! When faced with losing their job, they'll be lining up for the stick.... amazing how that works. All the "give me liberty or give me death" arguments will topple like a Florida condo. LOL
Per the latest ALPA update, looks like we're down to the single digits on the anti-vaxxer holdouts. Can't wait for American and SWA to announce their vaccine mandates to comply with the "federal contractor" Biden mandate. This is gonna be fun to watch.
Per the latest ALPA update, looks like we're down to the single digits on the anti-vaxxer holdouts. Can't wait for American and SWA to announce their vaccine mandates to comply with the "federal contractor" Biden mandate. This is gonna be fun to watch.
10-01-2021 | 02:50 AM
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I do find it interesting that many of those seeking religious exemptions argued what they believe to be faulty science regarding the vaccine while at the same time claiming that it violates their belief in a narrative devoid of scientific evidence.
