Possible New Variant that may defeat vaccine
11-30-2021, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Dr. John Campbell says everyone is going to be exposed to the new variant. It will be the new main variant and the best case scenario is this is the last wave and is so transmissible that it will be the end of the pandemic and will finally just be a common cold. Multiple people thinking this could be the best thing for this variant to take over with everyone having less severe symptoms. He is cautiously optimistic as there are still some unknowns but the next couple weeks will be telling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls7zy6_0Z2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls7zy6_0Z2s
Rather than presenting this to the nation yesterday; it was all gloom, doom and scream that "everybody will be vaccinated". The tone of "clean up your room" type parent rant. Perhaps a message, with the tone of the above would be better vector to take.
No. can't have that. The circle of tyranny must never abate I guess.
Thanks for posting the link. It is very encouraging and I for one believe that this is the end of this thing (the virus that is).
Now what our governments do, is under question. How far will they go with the medical apartheid policies?
12-01-2021, 09:30 AM
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WSJ reporting that there is preliminary evidence that vaccine mitigate severe disease with omicron, and also transmission to others.
Still need some controlled data to draw conclusions.
Still need some controlled data to draw conclusions.
12-01-2021, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
WSJ reporting that there is preliminary evidence that vaccine mitigate severe disease with omicron, and also transmission to others.
Still need some controlled data to draw conclusions.
Still need some controlled data to draw conclusions.
12-01-2021, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Every single case I have seen reported thus far (Japan, Europe, USA) has been in a vaccinated person. Can they find any unvaccinated people with this thing? Or better yet, have they had a single documented case of someone with natural immunity contracting this new variant? Or is that not important information?
The handful of cases in other parts of the world are all recent travelers, who are almost certainly vaccinated to begin with.
But the WSJ article postulated that vaccines may be a significant barrier to transmission, ie a vaccinated person is less likely to infect others. But need more data either way... no need to debate it at this point, it was basically anecdotal. Only mentioned it because the WSJ is pretty measured and certainly not interested in promoting hysteria.
12-01-2021, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
The vast majority of cases are in sub-Saharan Africa... odds are they're not vaccinated or if they are, they don't have the data either way.
The handful of cases in other parts of the world are all recent travelers, who are almost certainly vaccinated to begin with.
But the WSJ article postulated that vaccines may be a significant barrier to transmission, ie a vaccinated person is less likely to infect others. But need more data either way... no need to debate it at this point, it was basically anecdotal. Only mentioned it because the WSJ is pretty measured and certainly not interested in promoting hysteria.
The handful of cases in other parts of the world are all recent travelers, who are almost certainly vaccinated to begin with.
But the WSJ article postulated that vaccines may be a significant barrier to transmission, ie a vaccinated person is less likely to infect others. But need more data either way... no need to debate it at this point, it was basically anecdotal. Only mentioned it because the WSJ is pretty measured and certainly not interested in promoting hysteria.
This is how misinformation or disinformation is disseminated.
Why can't we wait to see what is really going on before we start saying things like 3.6 roentgen, not great, not terrible.
12-02-2021, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
But the WSJ article postulated that vaccines may be a significant barrier to transmission, ie a vaccinated person is less likely to infect others. But need more data either way... no need to debate it at this point, it was basically anecdotal. Only mentioned it because the WSJ is pretty measured and certainly not interested in promoting hysteria.
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