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Old 04-18-2017 | 04:43 AM
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The C-Series will be an absolute game changer. I rode on a Spirit NEO jet and it's amazing how quiet these new gear turbofan engines are. Add in the amazing performance and economics and you have an amazing jet. I believe that the C-Series will be just as financially rewarding if not more as the 717 deal has been for the Company and Pilots. Looking forward to it's arrival on property.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 04:47 AM
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It's a great aircraft however there is one major issue. It's to small for the US market long term. That more than price is why it has sold so poorly. The paper CS500 will lose much of the performance of the 100/300 unless it gets a bigger wing and engines.
Delta is the only US legacy with any long term plans to operate a aircraft with less then 150 seats. JetBlue is the only low cost carrier with that plan.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 07:15 AM
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Old 04-18-2017 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dustycrophopper
That's an interesting take that really hasn't been brought up but also consider this, these c 100/300s may end up doing all the flights being done by regional jets now in the future plus longer thinner routes and they are mainline aircraft, if they can make the 500 model a good plane, then you have a common fleet type for a very large variety of flying
The good news for us is that the plan at Delta seems to be exactly what you posted. American and UAL don't have the same concept.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 07:50 AM
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I've been hearing we want more CS 300's as opposed to the 100's. The 300 is comparable in capacity to the A319, but with lower seat/mile costs. It's looking like a west coast or possibly intermountain west airplane at the introduction. Where it will really shine is going up against Alaska in thinner markets out west. If Delta exercises all the options, it will probably be all over the system doing some interesting city pairs. It's also being considered for some Latin America routes, as it has a lot of capability performance and nav-wise. Not sure if the -100's will be as well liked by management. I see those as more like the 737-700's. Great performers on certain routes, but not a great investment for the airline. All that could change though if the idea is to cut way back on outsourced regional flying, and go to a more rationalized feed with the CS 100 into the hubs, something that's already happening with the 717. As for the first base, looks like LAX is the leading contender.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
... As for the first base, looks like LAX is the leading contender.
How does Delta handle the sim IP corps on a plane that is not based in ATL but the sims are in ATL? Are they ATL based and get PS/DH for LAX trips, are they LAX based and get PS/DH to the sim, or something in between?
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Old 04-18-2017 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
How does Delta handle the sim IP corps on a plane that is not based in ATL but the sims are in ATL? Are they ATL based and get PS/DH for LAX trips, are they LAX based and get PS/DH to the sim, or something in between?
I don't know the answer, but I think I saw something about that in one of the recent newsletters. Do a search for C series on DL net and you should find something on that.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
I've been hearing we want more CS 300's as opposed to the 100's. The 300 is comparable in capacity to the A319, but with lower seat/mile costs. It's looking like a west coast or possibly intermountain west airplane at the introduction. Where it will really shine is going up against Alaska in thinner markets out west. If Delta exercises all the options, it will probably be all over the system doing some interesting city pairs. It's also being considered for some Latin America routes, as it has a lot of capability performance and nav-wise. Not sure if the -100's will be as well liked by management. I see those as more like the 737-700's. Great performers on certain routes, but not a great investment for the airline. All that could change though if the idea is to cut way back on outsourced regional flying, and go to a more rationalized feed with the CS 100 into the hubs, something that's already happening with the 717. As for the first base, looks like LAX is the leading contender.

These are good points. I guess some of this depends on how quickly Delta wants to replace the MD88s. The CS300 would be a great replacement for the MD88 from a capacity standpoint (although it offers a lot more capability) whereas the CS100 seems to be more ideal for longer and thinner routes like LAX to destinations in the Midwest or destinations too far for the 717 - especially on important business routes where inflight comfort is critical for business travelers (i.e., non-RJ routes). The CS300 has a better CASM with the extra seats than the CS100. In Europe, SWISS evidently plans to use the CS100 and CS300 interchangeably throughout Europe on both shorter and medium segments.

Again, the CS300 opens up a lot of route options Delta does not currently have for that seating range. SEA to RSW or maybe LGA to TUS would be feasible. It would be great for the Boeing executives to fly SEA to CHS on a CS100/300.

By the way, Korean Air is scheduled to soon get the first of seven CS300s due to arrive this year. Pilots are already training on it and I believe Korean has a total of 20 orders & options on the CS300.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
How does Delta handle the sim IP corps on a plane that is not based in ATL but the sims are in ATL? Are they ATL based and get PS/DH for LAX trips, are they LAX based and get PS/DH to the sim, or something in between?


I've been told they hire LCPs/LVPs as necessary for the first two years. If those pilots can't hold their seat after that time frame then they have to leave the program.

Again, that's hear-say but I trust the sources.


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Old 04-18-2017 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Delta is the only US legacy with any long term plans to operate a aircraft with less then 150 seats.
Someone forgot to tell UA and AA about that.
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