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04-30-2017 | 12:44 PM

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WhiskeyDelta

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Vacation has been no fly for at least the last 40 years. The company would love it if we could fly over vacation. Would provide additional manning for peak periods and irops they currently have to staff for. In addition the company would certainly use it against us in future negotiations citing the statistics of how many pilots choose to fly over vacation when they want to cut it.

We briefly had the ability to Presell weeks to the company that was granted as a manning concession. Thankfully we were able to claw that back.

The change we really need to make concerning vacation is making it all pay and credit. The company would need 300 to 400 more Captains overnight.

Thanks for detail.

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04-30-2017 | 04:26 PM

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These are good points, it doesn't do anyone any good, obviously. Can always count on you guys to enlighten and look at these from a different perspective. Thanks for the replies!

05-01-2017 | 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

You can not fly on vacation. Let's never change that!

How do you feel about vacation sell back? Same thing in my opinion.

05-01-2017 | 05:38 AM

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If we start selling it back, it guts our argument we need more days, or more value per day.

05-01-2017 | 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtdiver

If we start selling it back, it guts our argument we need more days, or more value per day.

Vacation is useless at least 1 week a year, FEB does nothing. I say more even distribution, like summer and holidays. I think if sell back is OK then flying over would be OK. I don't promote either. Sell back only benefits the senior people with 4 weeks or more and no immediate family in the house.

05-01-2017 | 07:36 AM

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sailingfun

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Originally Posted by notEnuf

We don't allow sell back.

05-01-2017 | 07:39 AM

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TED74

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun

We don't allow sell back.

We actually force sell-back of vacation for those on long term leaves (e.g., MLOA)... when many of those pilots would prefer to keep the vacation for use in their returning leave year.

Last edited by TED74; 05-01-2017 at 08:01 AM.

05-01-2017 | 07:54 AM

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hockeypilot44

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This thread appears every few months. We have a lot of pilots here that don't know what to do with themselves when they have more than a few days off.