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Peoloto 05-09-2017 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by Ed Harley (Post 2360189)
I don't know, 60 captains in MSP with no displacements (in base) is bigger than anything we've seen. I'm thinking we could have some ~2014 hire captains in MSP resulting from this bid.

You're joking right?

Tinpusher007 05-09-2017 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by Bleeds On (Post 2359682)
I think what he's saying is if there are no AE's of significance for another year after this one, it's a virtual extension of seat lock. If you don't have the chance to bid out of category, you're essentially stuck.

Oh ok that makes sense. Im not unhappy where I am now. Im loving the bus and flying brand new 321s isn't bad either. I don't think it will be too long before Im ready to make a move.

BlueSkies 05-09-2017 05:45 AM

Thanks for the answers everyone.


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 2360050)
You can bid a different base of the jet you get assigned to though (in response to your first question).

I see on the most recent AE there are no openings for the 73NB in ATL. Does that mean if I was in, say, DTW on the 73NB and this AE came out that I wouldn't be able to get back to ATL until another bid with ATL openings came out?

I'd like to do the 73N or 717 if possible and I wouldn't mind commuting for a few months (live in ATL) but I don't want to get stuck commuting for a year if I don't have to.

Thanks.

sailingfun 05-09-2017 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 2360219)
Oh ok that makes sense. Im not unhappy where I am now. Im loving the bus and flying brand new 321s isn't bad either. I don't think it will be too long before Im ready to make a move.

There will be several more bids in the next 12 months. The opportunity to move will be there. The intro of the C100 alone will generate movement in the bottom ⅓ of the list. They will not backfill all the openings on this bid and cover it later with cleanup bids.

BobZ 05-09-2017 05:49 AM

Bid what you want.
And want what you bid.
One never knows what the great OZ will deliver on the award day...:)

sailingfun 05-09-2017 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by BlueSkies (Post 2360245)
Thanks for the answers everyone.



I see on the most recent AE there are no openings for the 73NB in ATL. Does that mean if I was in, say, DTW on the 73NB and this AE came out that I wouldn't be able to get back to ATL until another bid with ATL openings came out?

I'd like to do the 73N or 717 if possible and I wouldn't mind commuting for a few months (live in ATL) but I don't want to get stuck commuting for a year if I don't have to.

Thanks.

There are 900 Captains positions open on this bid. There will be plenty of ATL 73NB positions awarded on this and future cleanup bids.

TED74 05-09-2017 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by BlueSkies (Post 2360245)
Thanks for the answers everyone.



I see on the most recent AE there are no openings for the 73NB in ATL. Does that mean if I was in, say, DTW on the 73NB and this AE came out that I wouldn't be able to get back to ATL until another bid with ATL openings came out?

I'd like to do the 73N or 717 if possible and I wouldn't mind commuting for a few months (live in ATL) but I don't want to get stuck commuting for a year if I don't have to.

Thanks.

Sorry if this is repetitive. But for the new folks who may be a little unfamiliar...despite what is listed on an AE, secondary (and tertiary) effects mean that almost anything is possible. There are no NEW openings for ATL 73NB on this AE, but you will see tons of people awarded ATL 73NB when pilots who are currently holding those positions are awarded something else. That's why the mantra "Bid what you want and want what you bid" is so frequently repeated. No one (neither management nor pilots) knows exactly how an AE will really shake out. If you desire a category, it should be in your AE bid... however unlikely you think an award might be.

BobZ 05-09-2017 07:47 AM

If a newer pilot dznt have a bid preference beginning with 777A...ur probably not playg the game right....:)

MikeF16 05-09-2017 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 2360365)
If a newer pilot dznt have a bid preference beginning with 777A...ur probably not playg the game right....:)

Oh shlt, I need to change my bid!

Fozz179fs 05-09-2017 08:45 AM

What are predictions for MSP base in general? Not a lotta love from senior FOs in MSP for the 73N, which is good because it's a horrible airplane. Have a feeling a lot of folks sitting back until now. Anyone have thoughts on MSP??


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