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Old 07-02-2017, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley View Post
Very little to be gained by the pilot group with VB. Overall, a loss. It's exploratory by the company, with the end game is setting up seasonal bases for international. It's a huge win for management. This way they can put a 777 base in Fargo, if it doesn't work, let's try El Paso, don't laugh.
Why did we just not agree to that? Never going to happen.
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Old 07-02-2017, 05:11 PM
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...It's exploratory by the company, with the end game is setting up seasonal bases for international. It's a huge win for management. This way they can put a 777 base in Fargo, if it doesn't work, let's try El Paso, don't laugh.
"A. The Company may establish one or more virtual bases for pilots, as follows:
A virtual base will not be located:
a. outside the contiguous 48 states of the United States.
b. at an existing pilot base.
A virtual base rotation will not:
a. begin with an ocean crossing flight segment.
b. contain an ocean crossing flight segment to or from an existing pilot base.

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Old 07-02-2017, 05:51 PM
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Why did we just not agree to that? Never going to happen.
3 contracts from now is the end game. Camels nose under the tent, then they can't live without it. NMB will agree.
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Old 07-02-2017, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain View Post
"A. The Company may establish one or more virtual bases for pilots, as follows:
A virtual base will not be located:
a. outside the contiguous 48 states of the United States.
b. at an existing pilot base.
A virtual base rotation will not:
a. begin with an ocean crossing flight segment.
b. contain an ocean crossing flight segment to or from an existing pilot base.

MOU #16-03 - 1"
I know the contract, they always are looking long range, we look one contract at a time. They want to win in 2027.
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Old 07-02-2017, 05:56 PM
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Seriously, you guys are carrying the company's water. No chance your kids are named Richard, Ed, Steve and Jim? Our heroes.
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Old 07-02-2017, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Why did we just not agree to that? Never going to happen.
Sail,
I would lay odds you don't espouse your manifesto on the line. Unless you fly with new hires.

Hey now
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Old 07-03-2017, 03:31 AM
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Sail,
I would lay odds you don't espouse your manifesto on the line. Unless you fly with new hires.

Hey now
I espouse common sense. I forget who but someone made a bet with me about VB's on the forum. I hope they send the 100.00 to the Emergency fund.
The forum here has been nothing but doom and gloom for the last 10 years. Reality has been far different.
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Old 07-03-2017, 09:53 AM
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I espouse common sense. I forget who but someone made a bet with me about VB's on the forum. I hope they send the 100.00 to the Emergency fund.
The forum here has been nothing but doom and gloom for the last 10 years. Reality has been far different.
Nothing but doom and gloom, eh Mr. 9000 posts?
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Old 07-03-2017, 10:01 AM
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Nothing but doom and gloom, eh Mr. 9000 posts?
I should have said there are 10 pilots who are all doom and gloom and none of what they predicted has come to pass.
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Old 07-03-2017, 10:03 AM
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Do you have anything to back up that VB's were the single greatest job hit?
There was one mention of job loss from VB's and a offset we got. Both were minor. The 85 hour ALV was a far greater impact.
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