Big E 757

The A321’s were delivered plumbed for long range tanks, but we haven’t had the LRT’s installed. Seems to me we aren’t too interested in using that aircraft to its max performance. After the first 40-50 deliveries, the second overlapping order included the actual bigger center tank. I’m sure they have a reason, and I’d guess it’s that the 757 can do the trans cons better, currently. When the bigger tanked aircraft start showing up, I’d guess we start expanding the footprint of the airbus.

crazyjaydawg

Hawaiian is already flying A321NEOs to the best coast.

AA flies A321CEOs LAX to various Hawaiian markets.

CX500T

Reading about GTFs now, when I worked on some testing for them in the late 90s when I was an Engineer at Pratt, makes me wonder if they're ever going to actually get fully mature.

That's a lot of power to run through a not very big gearbox.

FL370esq

I thought Delta's reduced purchase price for the CSeries was based on an agreed-upon reduction in CSeries range.

Baradium

This forum is the only place I've ever seen that mentioned or implied. I did a search and can't find any reference to such an agreement myself anyway.

Baradium

And they don't even need ETOPS to do it!

Baradium

You mean that they ordered them set up for the larger tanks so they could be installed later? Sounds like we're interested in keeping the options open with the fleet. And without the tanks installed, that isn't part of the a/c's performance either. The implication was more along the lines of having the tanks installed and just pretending that the fuel wasn't there.

80ktsClamp

The 321s come standard ready for the tanks. It's not a plug and play, but it is a fairly simple addition.

They run pretty awesome already... we're doing ATL to SAN, SFO, SLC, PHX and others already better than was predicted with the standard tanks.

Full boat (more pax than we carried when I flew the 757), right up to FL340 westbound to the west coast to start out... that's what we normally did on the 757 and burning a lot less gas. Aux tanks will just increase their flexibility for other cities (JFK to west coast) plus the usual max weight increase that comes with that.

#triggeringsailingfun

FL370esq

Not sure of their authenticity but....

According to Leeham News:

"Parenthetically, the Delta testimony revealed that its transaction with BBD priced the CS100 as a 1,000-mile airplane. Should Delta begin using the aircraft on longer routes, additional monies will be paid to Bombardier. The CS100 has a range of more than 2,900nm."

Seeking Alpha wrote:

"The only aircraft deal that Bombardier landed with a major US customer is with Delta Air Lines, which was looking for a 100-seat aircraft with a 1,000nm range and has agreed to buy 75 CS100 aircraft with options for another 50 aircraft. This is worthy of a critical look for more than one reason.
Boeing has accused Bombardier of dumping the C Series aircraft on the US market at a price that does not cover the production costs and has asked for an 80% tariff. What Boeing does not seem to take into account is the fact that the contract between Bombardier and Delta Air Lines is tailored as the airline has been looking into acquiring an aircraft the size of an MD-88 and regional range. This means that there are some specific properties of the C Series aircraft that Delta Air Lines is not interested in but that are incorporated in the base market value of the aircraft. To offset that, Bombardier has given additional discounts next to standard discounts and customary discounts for early adopters."

G4IND

Wow, I always thought we would see the Cseries used on some of the longer haul routes, like as the poster above mentioned something like LGA-DFW-LAX.....but I guess the goal is to replace some of the RJ flying... which will probably free up a decent amount of 69/76 seaters, but I don't know how they plan on redeploying those....