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01-28-2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ship741

A350 is unable LAX-SYD, really unable JNB-ATL, thus unable to ditch the extremely heavy and overbuilt 777LR that is only needed for those 2 routes.....Boeing sold us another bill of goods....all just MHO of course.

Is there a payment we need to make for extra range, like the landing weights on the 320?

01-28-2018, 12:04 PM

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JamesBond

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Is there a payment we need to make for extra range, like the landing weights on any airplane?

fyp. The 767s all got increased gross weights due to the 787 debacle. All done with the stroke of a pen.

01-28-2018, 12:16 PM

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01-28-2018, 12:23 PM

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Whatever we are doing at the moment, it's the best way to do it. Multi jet fleet? Brilliant. Change our minds and go one make? Brilliant.

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Buy used over unproven? Brilliant. Replace used that can't be serviced for new unproven? Brilliant.

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01-28-2018, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ship741

I don't know if there are A350 MTOW weights and thrust bumps to be had. That's always a compromise imho.

I would think that Airbus would want to keep us happy, now that they FINALLY have us.

I'm detecting a pattern. 739 ETOPS can't make Hawaii. A350 can't make LAX-SYD. Someone at the manufacturers are over-promising and someone at Delta is getting snookered.

What was the last airplane that actually delivered what the manufacturers promised?

If the C Series is close to promised performance, both AB and BA will have to sit up and take notice. I think going forward, Bombardier is gonna be a game changer.

01-28-2018, 01:18 PM

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Mesabah

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

I believe the Cseries exceeded its performance promises. But as stated above, Delta appears not to want to utilize its game changer performance.

Also, the GTF is no where near a mature engine, that thing has major headroom to grow.

01-28-2018, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mesabah

I believe the Cseries exceeded its performance promises.

It ain't in the US yet. Let's see when it gets here. But that would make them even more of a threat to both AB and BA. They could be the SpaceEx of the commercial aircraft industry.

01-28-2018, 01:26 PM

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We are months away from its first flight at Delta and you have established we are not going to use its performance?

01-28-2018, 01:35 PM

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We are months away from its first flight at Delta and you have established we are not going to use its performance?

That wouldn't be very Delta. I think almost every airframe we have since Hauenstein stepped on the property has been stretched to it's max. I can't think of one that is underutilized.