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10-13-2018, 12:24 PM

#3001

Jaww

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Originally Posted by Delta2heavy

If I was a betting man I would bet the 3rd and 4th bases for this thing will be dtw and msp
Probably msp first because of the lack of a 717 base there

MSP is RJ central. No need for the 717 there.

10-13-2018, 05:19 PM

#3002

Denny Crane

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaww

MSP is RJ central. No need for the 717 there.

Well, if we are........wait for it........upsizing aircraft (like the company says), that would make it a perfect 717 base!

Denny

10-13-2018, 08:14 PM

#3003

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta2heavy

If I was a betting man I would bet the 3rd and 4th bases for this thing will be dtw and msp
Probably msp first because of the lack of a 717 base there

They would have done 717 if not for the lack of sim time.

10-13-2018, 08:16 PM

#3004

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Originally Posted by Jaww

MSP is RJ central. No need for the 717 there.

Uh... With the RJs doing the medium and long regional routes the 717 is the perfect plane to mop up the short range stuff. Since it can't fly as far.

10-13-2018, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by David Puddy

Anyone checked out the simulator yet? What do you think about it? Would be curious to hear from current Airbus sidestickers in terms of general feel, etc as well. Any initial sim-based impressions?

I go in it a fair amount. The 220 Sims are next to 320 sim 4 and the 350. I take students in it and 350 whenever I'm on a d period in sim 4, usually I show 350 sim first. That 350 is a spaceship.

10-13-2018, 09:23 PM

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Jaww

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny Crane

Well, if we are........wait for it........upsizing aircraft (like the company says), that would make it a perfect 717 base!

Denny

It won’t happen but I’m just an idiot posting my opinion on a forum whilst laying over. That plane is going away and I see it consolidating and not expanding.

10-14-2018, 03:46 AM

#3007

SideSticker

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

They would have done 717 if not for the lack of sim time.

I read that as well, but dont we need to train the pilots regardles if where they are based? Why is MSP different?

10-14-2018, 03:51 AM

#3008

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Originally Posted by Jaww

MSP is RJ central. No need for the 717 there.

I've been flying 717 trips that have no Atlanta flying at all the past couple months(DHs on both ends). Majority of the Hub flying on those trips are tbru MSP. I've flown out of MSP extensively and IMO the Mainline operation is significantly bigger than the RJ operation. RJs are just on C for the most part. As I've experienced on plane swaps, Mainline Ops cover a long distance by foot. The massive Terminal G, F, D, and C. With the arrival of the A220, the trend will continue.

10-14-2018, 05:05 AM

#3009

FMGEC

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Originally Posted by SideSticker

I read that as well, but dont we need to train the pilots regardles if where they are based? Why is MSP different?

With how senior MSP is, on the whole, it is believed that opening/closing MSP aircraft crew bases generate more training events than a more junior base.
24 month seat locks for new hires go away with a new aircraft in MSP, senior FO’s on MSP airplanes moving to 717A MSP- creating a vacancy in the 320B MSP, opening another training event for someone whom left their position...etc.
The training wave behind 1 senior pilot (either A or B) moving to a different position in a senior base can cause 9 or more training events behind their movement. Crazy to think of, I know.

10-14-2018, 05:14 AM

#3010

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta2heavy

If I was a betting man I would bet the 3rd and 4th bases for this thing will be dtw and msp
Probably msp first because of the lack of a 717 base there

717 will shift to Atlanta and I'd be surprised if it sticks around. The good news is our network seems to have grown to require larger jets. The 717 still has some expensive parts on it.

Delta says T-Tail = NO Next Gen. The Valu-Jet/AirTran/Southwest guys will line up to tell me that I'm wrong about MD95 RNAV/RNP. But that's what we are told.