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Old 06-24-2017 | 09:03 AM
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I'm sure this info exists elsewhere but I can't seem to find it. As a new-hire, what can I expect as far as pay goes during indoc and training? What's the normal work schedule? Hotel provided?
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Old 06-24-2017 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cornwallis
All,
I'm sure this info exists elsewhere but I can't seem to find it. As a new-hire, what can I expect as far as pay goes during indoc and training? What's the normal work schedule? Hotel provided?
Thanks,
C
Training pay is $4753 a month for 2017. $4895 for 2018. You will be on that pay until completion of OE, so usually a few months but possibly longer for any number of reasons.

Work schedule is usually 5 on 2 off but that can vary a bit for sims. You also will get a week or more (sometimes months but don't count on it) off for "home study" before you show up for aircraft training. During this time you will be on training pay as mentioned above. For 2+ day breaks you get positive space travel home and back.

You will get a hotel provided for the 2 week INDOC period only, as a courtesy. After that you are on your own. You will also have to buy your own uniforms. Probation is one year or 400 block hours, whichever comes first. You will still be on "first year pay" until the end of the first year though regardless.

Its a great time to be hired right now with unbelievable advancement and upgrade times that rival start up LCC's, but at MUCH higher pay. That said, the training and first year period lags our competitors in most areas, sometimes in a big way. Long term this more than comes out in the wash and you'll still be equal to or ahead of other options, but it is what it is (FWIW I'm in favor of the UAL model for new hires for pay, hotels and uniforms, and can't stand the "pay your dues" mentality but I digress).
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Perfect, thanks.
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Old 06-24-2017 | 06:55 PM
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Is the uniform expense taken out of your paycheck automatically every month or do you pay for the expense directly? What sort of cost are we talking about for the uniform?
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Is the uniform expense taken out of your paycheck automatically every month or do you pay for the expense directly? What sort of cost are we talking about for the uniform?
You just pay up front. Company is not involved in the money aspect, they just tell you where you can buy. I think now there is just one authorized supplier.
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Old 06-24-2017 | 08:02 PM
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You get the distinct honor and privilege of purchasing one of the navy's finest general issue jackets at 5X the price. And you also get the privilege of purchasing the matching hat. Your first set of widget wings are on the house.
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Would it be possible to disclose the price of the required uniform items to purchase?
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Originally Posted by G550av8r
Would it be possible to disclose the price of the required uniform items to purchase?
$550ish. You can go the cheap route and get "unapproved" pants and hold off until OCT to get the full coat and pants set. That's what I did years ago. I had a black regional uniform. Changed the wings and the hat emblem and I was good to go. You didn't hear that from me BTW.
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$550ish. You can go the cheap route and get "unapproved" pants and hold off until OCT to get the full coat and pants set. That's what I did years ago. I had a black regional uniform. Changed the wings and the hat emblem and I was good to go. You didn't hear that from me BTW.


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Originally Posted by notEnuf
$550ish. You can go the cheap route and get "unapproved" pants and hold off until OCT to get the full coat and pants set. That's what I did years ago. I had a black regional uniform. Changed the wings and the hat emblem and I was good to go. You didn't hear that from me BTW.


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