100 321 NEO Order
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/12/13/delta-to-announce-big-order-for-airbus-jets-a-major-loss-for-boeing.html

bahahahahahaha!

So...isn't the 321NEO the one folks are saying can legitimately do LAX-HNL(and back) and transatlantic? Extra fuel and efficient engines and all that.

Yes. 321LR NEO( or 321 NEO LR) is touted as a 4000nm airplane. MAX10 is 3200NM....I think.

Is there a LR NEO and a regular NEO? Or are they all LR NEOs?

Guess thats the end of your 757s huh :(

<----- I resemble that remark.

From what I understand all the 321's are plumbed for the LR extra belly tank, but they dont have that LR tank installed.

Hawaiian just launched the 321 NEO to/from US west coast.

It's a marginal transatlantic aircraft off long runways with shorter range than a 757 with winglets. The difference grows with shorter runways and higher temps in favor of the 757.

So this aligns fleets for an acquistion i guess?

Hey...if wer stirring the pot lets really stir it!

Lax 321N opening on feb bid. Heard it here 1st. :)

It’s the closest approximation to the 757 offered by any manufacturer today.

Too bad they didn’t approximate the main door in the right place...

Good, the 321 is superior to anything boeing makes in that category. Maybe Southwest will buy some more of those ****ty 737s.

‘merkin actually has gate agents trained to park at L2 at some stations. Ours have the big door at L2 as well...

It's an option. we just didn't chose to buy it. Just like several others.

If you look closely, we actually do have the big door at L2.

Regular 320 NEO can do Hawaii with no problems. 320 NEO LR can do Europe. JetBlue has ordered 60 NEO's with the option to get the LR version. They said they will do Europe out of JFK and BOS if they get the LR's.

That would make it interesting - I asked a couple CA’s and they said no way it’d happen... I’m just here for the free beer.

There have already been rumblings of an LAX 320 base without this order. It's almost a guarantee now with another 100 coming. That should easily make the 320 category the largest category at Delta, I think even without this order it was going to be the largest with all the 321's.

Just thinking here. It will need to have a new pay rate negotiated. Contract says so.

So if we get ER pay for the NEO's will they have a separate category or one common category? Be dumb to have them separate, but if they combine them reserve pay will be based on 321 NEO pay.

No way it'll be separate. Keep in mind they are retiring some of the older 320's now. It'll probably be a couple of bucks more than the 321, a few less than the ER.

As someone else said...a321Lr = A321neo + more tanks. Two separate names but basically the same thing. Don’t know that a NEO can be retroactively converted to an LR...NEOs are being delivered...LRs aren’t until 2019. Looks like the LR requires the fuselage to have the new config with L2/R2 removed and replaced with overwing exits (2nd link) that comes out next year.

https://leehamnews.com/2015/01/15/ai...e-whats-there/

Airbus seems to think the 4 door per side version will go away and they want all A321s to have the overwing exits. This takes away the L2 boarding capability.

Airbus: “We can offer the four-door configuration for the A321neo if the market requires it. There are today more than 1,000 A321s in service and more than 2,300 have been ordered. So the four-door A321 fleet will be very important by 2018. But there are a lot of benefits associated to A321neo ACF, including full cabin layout flexibility, so our customers will move to ACF progressively as it becomes available.”

https://leehamnews.com/2015/01/18/a3...20-production/

Good thing our largest category will be one of the lowest paying.....we gotta get that rate up

Are we looking at pay banding for the next round? Seems like with all the nb orders and JV’s it might be a good idea...

Isn’t the second largest category also the second lowest paying...even though both aircraft in that category carry more passengers than other aircraft in higher paying categories?

319/320/321 category will be the largest at DL - even before this latest speculated order.
Love to see it go to West Coast. Would make sense, like the 73 is at every base

A321 NEO requires a new pay rate to be negotiated!

Let's hope they have headrests...

I wouldn't be surprised to see LAX and SEA eventually!

Since cnn reported this I really think we will end up with 100 737 max 10

Or MD-82s.

Manufactured by the Russians!!

https://www.theflagshop.co.uk/media/...e-flag-std.jpg

F Russians and their flag.

Actually all 100 are coming to MSP, you heard it here first!!!!

With the jetprop, right?!?

Please, unducted fan.:cool:

https://i.imgflip.com/211qor.jpg

Even if we do get a new rate out of it I don't see how we will get much more than a -900 PINO (premium in name only) token amount without "the hammer" which is long gone.

Nothing is for certain, who knows Boeing could come in at the last minute and offer a steal on aircraft and more importantly drop the C-Series legal action to make good. As is the fork in the fleet plans I imagine is really cumbersome, but it isn't the end of the road.

With Airbus running the Cseries and Bus fleet, it sure makes logistics, maintenance, and order conversions probably real easy.

It will all work out.