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Old 01-09-2018 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You only go to the bottom of the list if the trip you want would not be legal to fly had you flown the trip you were sick on. You can thank your fellow pilots who were tactically sicking out to pick up Green slips. For pilots who use sick leave properly it can be a benefit because it will award that flying to the pilot who should have received it in the first place.
Wrong.

I was just told 30 days at the bottom following my sick call.

I dropped a trip back on DEC 20 (first PCS run) and intended to pick up something else because I need a specific day off. A WS went out junior to me so I called to ask why. You guessed it......sick call sends you to the bottom of the list for 30 days.


edit: Just read 23.P.3. That seemed to clear things up....NOT. I don't think the scheduler or I have any idea how this is supposed to be applied. Time to call my rep. Again. Glad we vetted this fully before the vote.

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Old 01-09-2018 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Wrong.

I was just told 30 days at the bottom following my sick call.

I dropped a trip back on DEC 20 (first PCS run) and intended to pick up something else because I need a specific day off. A WS went out junior to me so I called to ask why. You guessed it......sick call sends you to the bottom of the list for 30 days.
If the contract is written to allow this, it sure looks like a punitive measure for calling out sick. That sounds illegal to me, not in context of our often loophole littered contract, but in a broader context of a general legal framework. I'm not a lawyer and am curious what the lawyers out there think.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Wrong.

I was just told 30 days at the bottom following my sick call.

I dropped a trip back on DEC 20 (first PCS run) and intended to pick up something else because I need a specific day off. A WS went out junior to me so I called to ask why. You guessed it......sick call sends you to the bottom of the list for 30 days.
I don't buy this. Without a contractual reference that supports this punitive measure it sounds like you are owed some pay.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Wrong.

I was just told 30 days at the bottom following my sick call.

I dropped a trip back on DEC 20 (first PCS run) and intended to pick up something else because I need a specific day off. A WS went out junior to me so I called to ask why. You guessed it......sick call sends you to the bottom of the list for 30 days.


edit: Just read 23.P.3. That seemed to clear things up....not. I don't think the scheduler or I have any idea how this is supposed to be applied. Time to call my rep. Again.
If you could have legally flown the trip had you not sicked out you need to call and get paid for it. If you needed the sick call in order to be legal for the trip the scheduler is correct.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
If you could have legally flown the trip had you not sicked out you need to call and get paid for it. If you needed the sick call in order to be legal for the trip the scheduler is correct.
I don't think they know. This "30 day" thing is nowhere in the PWA.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I don't think they know. This "30 day" thing is nowhere in the PWA.
There is no 30 day thing.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
There is no 30 day thing.
Exactly. That's why I suspect they are either making it up as they go, don't have a clue or are just FOS. I'll send it to the scheduling committee. That will take awhile with all the recent RRs.(I'm guessing)
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Old 01-09-2018 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
That’s not contractually legal. The company did attempt that to a certain extant however it was grieved and settled in our favor.
Your statement is very generic, as was my first. There are times when a reroute is what is needed. Many other times crew tracking calls scheduling with a "will need" (not sure of the exact verbiage).

I guess my greater point is that just because a guy is being rerouted, that may have nothing to do with whether or not guys have WS or GS requests in.

Further explanation is a lot longer discussion.

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Old 01-09-2018 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
Your statement is very generic, as was my first. There are times when a reroute is what is needed. Many other times crew tracking calls scheduling with a "will need" (not sure of the exact verbiage).

I guess my greater point is that just because a guy is being rerouted, that may have nothing to do with whether or not guys have WS or GS requests in.

Further explanation is a lot longer discussion.

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In the grievance it was agreed that all flying known more than 14 hours in advance must go through the trip coverage ladder. If it’s less than 14 it can be covered via reroute.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 01:58 PM
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True. And a good point that all pilots should know.

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