ATC Phraseology
04-21-2018, 07:06 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by MFan97
How many of you use the word “leveling” from time to time? As in “Delta 123 leveling 14,000”.
I ask because I was ripped a new one by a very rude ATL approach controller recently. We were descending through 14,400 at a rate of about 2,000fpm, our rate was slowly decreasing to hold 14,000. Perhaps 15 seconds or so from being level. I checked in with “Delta 123 leveling 14,000”, and he just went off on me.
My research leads me to believe that the controller was probably correct that this isn’t 100% by-the-book phraseology, but I know I’m not that unusual in saying it. I’ve tried to filter out perceived annoying things like “with you” from my calls...never knew that this was so objectable.
Most of what bothers me is, what possesses people to be dicks? This was not the time or place for an unsolicited lesson, especially for something so petty.
Thoughts?
I ask because I was ripped a new one by a very rude ATL approach controller recently. We were descending through 14,400 at a rate of about 2,000fpm, our rate was slowly decreasing to hold 14,000. Perhaps 15 seconds or so from being level. I checked in with “Delta 123 leveling 14,000”, and he just went off on me.
My research leads me to believe that the controller was probably correct that this isn’t 100% by-the-book phraseology, but I know I’m not that unusual in saying it. I’ve tried to filter out perceived annoying things like “with you” from my calls...never knew that this was so objectable.
Most of what bothers me is, what possesses people to be dicks? This was not the time or place for an unsolicited lesson, especially for something so petty.
Thoughts?
04-21-2018, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
I just give him the OK thanks I must have missed the radio call you made to that other aircraft, we have some other stuff going on here. 
Scoop
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04-21-2018, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MFan97
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
"Atlanta approach, Delta 1827, one-four thousand four hundred-forty feet descending one four thousand feet, information charlie"
04-21-2018, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Use standard comm - no extra words, "with ya", "here we go", etc. Problem solved.
Fixed it for you there, 2Stg
Fixed it for you there, 2Stg
04-21-2018, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
Lighten up Francis, this isn't Red Flag. Better idea, controllers should stop being dicks, problem solved.
So, some of us can keep using "bro" style trucker comm and we can continue to have threads whining about controllers who (while they may be dicks) are understandably tired of listening to bad radio procedures. Seems like an easy solution.
04-21-2018, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
They work for you. Never ever let their bad day affect you.
04-21-2018, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
One of the best retorts I ever heard was "Am I up here because you're down there? Or are you down there because I'm up here?"
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