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07-15-2018, 06:44 PM
#391
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
I think by unbalanced they mean they have enough crews on most airplanes, but the crews are based in the wrong cities.
Example: The 330 has too many crews in DTW, so they DH to JFK to fly some of the JFK departures. SEA has only one departure a day, but are staffed for many more, so THEY DH to JFK to fly their trips. JFK pilots (or those who live nearby) wish they would expand the JFK 330 base, but CR won't, because it's only the summer when they need the people Also, Crew Resources would like to displace from SEA, but I think Network won't commit to having the airplanes in a specific city for a length of time, so CR can't bet on the displacement lasting.
Example: The 330 has too many crews in DTW, so they DH to JFK to fly some of the JFK departures. SEA has only one departure a day, but are staffed for many more, so THEY DH to JFK to fly their trips. JFK pilots (or those who live nearby) wish they would expand the JFK 330 base, but CR won't, because it's only the summer when they need the people Also, Crew Resources would like to displace from SEA, but I think Network won't commit to having the airplanes in a specific city for a length of time, so CR can't bet on the displacement lasting.
07-15-2018, 06:58 PM
#392
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Originally Posted by p3flteng
So it seems the company has a training problem,
they will invariably be coming to us for some relief or remedy sooner or later.... what might that be?
And most important.... what can we get for it?
Maybe this deserves its own thread..
they will invariably be coming to us for some relief or remedy sooner or later.... what might that be?
And most important.... what can we get for it?
Maybe this deserves its own thread..
07-16-2018, 04:19 AM
#393
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
A few of the trips are DH, but they try building mostly "inside out" trips. A DTW crew flies DTW-FCO-JFK-FCO-DTW. They fly some MSP trips like CDG and AMS this way also. ATH requires a DH because JFK is the only city that has an ATH departure. SEA gets some seasonal CDG inside out also.
07-16-2018, 04:35 AM
#394
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Which always makes us NYC 330 guys wonder why they do it. The DH for ATH’s that is.
07-16-2018, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Which always makes us NYC 330 guys wonder why they do it. The DH for ATH’s that is.
07-16-2018, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Which always makes us NYC 330 guys wonder why they do it. The DH for ATH’s that is.
Yes I understand flying doesn’t belong to a base. However when some of your best (most efficient) trips are flown by other bases it sucks.
07-16-2018, 08:26 AM
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Seattle’s problem is the size of the current international arrivals facility. It can only handle a certain amount of people a day and is way over capacity now. A new facility is under construction now (its gonna be under the A concourse) but it won’t be ready now until sometime in 2020. It was supposed to be summer/fall of 2019. I’ve been told the SEA330 category is supposed to expand with the arrival of the 330NEO. The original timing was for the facility to be done shortly after we began receiving the NEO’s. Since the timing is not quite working out, who knows what’s going to happen. For August there are 61 Captains. By the end of the year I believe there will be 6 more retirements leaving 55 in category.
Obviously I’m hoping the category stays open. I think the training caused by closing it would be seriously daunting to the company at this particular time. I do think we will see an expansion of international seats out of Seattle when the new facility is done. We will see what happens......I had my mandatory displacement bid in on this last AE/MD.
Denny
Obviously I’m hoping the category stays open. I think the training caused by closing it would be seriously daunting to the company at this particular time. I do think we will see an expansion of international seats out of Seattle when the new facility is done. We will see what happens......I had my mandatory displacement bid in on this last AE/MD.
Denny
07-16-2018, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by caddis
I feel your pain. When I was in NYC on the 330 I liked to bid 4 ATH trips a month, it was fantastic. Then before I left a couple years ago they started giving more and more of the ATH flying to DH from other bases it makes ZERO sense. We would lose about 1/2 the ATH lines to other bases. Last month in DTW SEA guys flew almost all of our NGO trips.
Yes I understand flying doesn’t belong to a base. However when some of your best (most efficient) trips are flown by other bases it sucks.
Yes I understand flying doesn’t belong to a base. However when some of your best (most efficient) trips are flown by other bases it sucks.
07-16-2018, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The forum has predicted a training crash every year since 2009. Maybe someday the forum will be right!
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