August SILS - 40 hours....
06-24-2018, 06:38 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
They are trying to get around paying guys full reserve guarantee. Not exactly black and white, but the political grandstanders seem to be out in full swing trying to make it as such.
Why the MEC would want to torpedo this is beyond me, especially when no one had any issues at all when the company was offering KLOAs that paid zero hours.
Just another random "controversy of the week" generated by this strangely inept MEC, to either spin up the masses, or create a false tough guy facade.
06-24-2018, 06:47 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
Well of course the company is trying to reduce paying reserve guarantee. The "win win" (if that's not too dirty a word) for the pilots bidding SILs is that they still can get half a month's pay for having a pulse and no other obligation to the company. Pretty good gig for some.
Why the MEC would want to torpedo this is beyond me, especially when no one had any issues at all when the company was offering KLOAs that paid zero hours.
Just another random "controversy of the week" generated by this strangely inept MEC, to either spin up the masses, or create a false tough guy facade.
Why the MEC would want to torpedo this is beyond me, especially when no one had any issues at all when the company was offering KLOAs that paid zero hours.
Just another random "controversy of the week" generated by this strangely inept MEC, to either spin up the masses, or create a false tough guy facade.
06-24-2018, 08:28 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by SideSticker
I think your on to something. Maybe we could rig Arcos to alow everyony to bid on open time. I dont have any trouble doing that trip for 1.5x pay, instead of a 2x greenslip.If im the low bidder, I might just get the trip. Hopefully no-one under bids me, but I suppose that would be their individual choice.
06-24-2018, 09:46 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by TED74
I don't believe it was included in the memo, but apparently there is some heart burn about the company jumping to this pressure relief valve when they are overmanned while taking zero inputs from the RCC. In other words, they could easily accommodate RCC inputs to give pilots the trip changes pilots are seeking when in this state (and improve the operation, reliability and IROP recovery) but they choose not to. If the company doesn't scratch our backs, maybe we don't scratch theirs (and pull SILs down). Those pilots who wanted the SILs would unfortunately be caught in such crossfire...but if the pressure worked, perhaps rotation quality would improve and we'd be a happier bunch across the fleet.
06-25-2018, 03:15 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by 3 green
For categories offering SILS why not just bid reserve? Better pay, and you may fly once..I just flew with a reserve in a SIL category and he had not flown in over a month.
06-25-2018, 03:21 AM
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It’s important to note that the MEC chairman works for our reps.
He is not the dictator.
The reps were briefed and the Chairman took direction. Then led the will of the body.
Our reps are second to none and they are very reasonable intelligent people.
He is not the dictator.
The reps were briefed and the Chairman took direction. Then led the will of the body.
Our reps are second to none and they are very reasonable intelligent people.
06-25-2018, 03:35 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
There are a few categories where they are not using RCC inputs. Those categories should not have SILs.
ATL M88A is a good example. The 88 bid package is so bad for July (90+% 4-5 day trips in a purely domestic category) that it actually prompted one of the few Council 44 communications signed by all four reps.
Now for August the company is offering 62 ATL M88A SILs.
06-25-2018, 03:46 AM
#29
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It’s based on the lowest common denominator. So if the Bs are way under manned then that drives the bid pack.
But you’re right, if both As and Bs are offered SILS and the company disregarded the RCC inputs then that’s a foul.
But you’re right, if both As and Bs are offered SILS and the company disregarded the RCC inputs then that’s a foul.
06-25-2018, 04:57 AM
#30
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Originally Posted by MJP27
The company is offering pilots a chance to voluntarily stay home all month for 40 hours of pay (over the summer no less) and our MEC is probably going to shut it down. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.
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