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Old 07-17-2018, 10:12 AM
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I wonder how much this will cost them per pilot?

All this appears to be is panic mode money throwing money at Big Ed x 2.

100-200K for the degree that used to cost under 30K not that long ago, and another 100-150K+ for ratings that not that long ago cost 20-30K. Paid into a third party system that has shown what it does to prices when more money is thrown at it by interests that never look behind the curtain.

Soon it will be way over a quarter million to produce a new hire regional FO, and no one asked how TF we got to that point, when not that long ago we had more than enough GA and training infrastructure to produce the same number of pilots at a small fraction of the cost.

But when you're busy lighting billions on fire looking through a drinking straw at next quarter's results then who cares because as Seinfeld says, "that's tomorrow guy's problem".
I've been sounding the alarm on the University debt scam for years, the GDP hit when the bubble finally bursts will certainly be classified as a depression.
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Old 07-17-2018, 10:17 AM
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I've been sounding the alarm on the University debt scam for years, the GDP hit when the bubble finally bursts will certainly be classified as a depression.
Sad thing is that no one even questions it. Not parents, not corporations effected by it, and certainly not the legislature. We just keep throwing more scam money at it like 529's and grants etc which makes it worse and insures its inevitable collapse will be even more painful. The whole thing exists as a romantic concept outside of reality.
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Old 07-17-2018, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
Sad thing is that no one even questions it. Not parents, not corporations effected by it, and certainly not the legislature. We just keep throwing more scam money at it like 529's and grants etc which makes it worse and insures its inevitable collapse will be even more painful. The whole thing exists as a romantic concept outside of reality.
Not to worry—. Once Bernie is elected it will all be free!!
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Old 07-17-2018, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
I wonder how much this will cost them per pilot?

All this appears to be is panic mode money throwing money at Big Ed x 2.

100-200K for the degree that used to cost under 30K not that long ago, and another 100-150K+ for ratings that not that long ago cost 20-30K. Paid into a third party system that has shown what it does to prices when more money is thrown at it by interests that never look behind the curtain.

Soon it will be way over a quarter million to produce a new hire regional FO, and no one asked how TF we got to that point, when not that long ago we had more than enough GA and training infrastructure to produce the same number of pilots at a small fraction of the cost.

But when you're busy lighting billions on fire looking through a drinking straw at next quarter's results then who cares because as Seinfeld says, "that's tomorrow guy's problem".
I didn’t see anywhere in the announcement that Delta will be paying anyone’s tuition.
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Old 07-17-2018, 11:00 AM
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I hate to rain on the parade but I've had concerns recommending the career to my kids mainly because technology is moving so fast I'm not sure how long aircraft will have 2 or more pilots. Anyone else have these concerns or am I out to lunch?
No, you’re not out to lunch. This is a great job, but if you’re in your 20s today, I can’t really see this as a viable career past your 40s. This shortage of pilots will only serve as the impetus behind the acceleration of automation that will reduce the number of required crew members. I don’t think it’s as close as some think, but it’s coming.
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Old 07-17-2018, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
I wonder how much this will cost them per pilot?
All this appears to be is panic mode money throwing money at Big Ed x
Why do you think this will cost Delta more money? They are providing the opportunity, and not paying for it. Unless I missed something..A student today has the same opportunities to get to Delta. Go to college, build flight time and apply at Delta. The new program gives a path and a timeline that they must commit to at DCI. No guarantees.. This program seems more geared toward staffing the regionals during the upcoming pilot shortage. Plus with no guarantees of being hired, this program could backfire on candidates if DCI is very short on pilots and Delta cannot bring them to mainline. Am i misreading the memo?
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Old 07-17-2018, 11:06 AM
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We have over a thousand pilots here waiting for the DGI, a lot of them are children of current Delta pilots. These propel pilots just got slotted in ahead of a lot of them.



There is no way we can afford to lose hundreds of FO's all at once, along with over 150 DGI pilots/year.
No, they weren’t slotted ahead of anyone
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Old 07-17-2018, 11:17 AM
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Delta doesn’t pay for anything other than the on-campus events and off-campus social events and administrative costs. Very minimal investment to get our culture into these schools and promote the brand.

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Old 07-17-2018, 11:47 AM
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FlyMaryJane is right. This strategy made sense when I first heard it before our '01 strike, and still makes sense today. The term: Whip-saw still fits...
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Old 07-17-2018, 11:56 AM
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The sole purpose of this program is to staff the regionals IMO..Why would any Delta pilot volunteer as a mentor in order to keep DCI around?

If this were completely true, there would only be one path to Delta and it would be through DCI. As it is, there are 3 paths. Take a look at all parts of the program.
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