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Old 07-17-2018, 11:58 AM
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I know a number of pilots building time out of their local airports and getting hired at an AA wholly-owned within weeks of getting 1500 hours, and they will flow to AA eventually. There’s no need to go through complicated and drawn out programs.

BTW, there’s already an industry of quality pilots trying to to the big three and don’t get a call because of HR metrics.
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Old 07-17-2018, 11:59 AM
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It's not a lack of interest in aviation, it's a freaking economic one. The lack of scholarship or grants etc. has put this career nearly out of reach. When it costs nearly the same to go through medical school or Vet school as it does to be a pilot...i.e. $235k+ and then you get paid a whole $40k, best case scenario vs what a Doc makes after their school... well, there you go.
They will eventually figure out the scholarship angle and its attendent tax implications.
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Old 07-17-2018, 12:01 PM
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If this were completely true, there would only be one path to Delta and it would be through DCI. As it is, there are 3 paths. Take a look at all parts of the program.
DCI would be the shortest path to the required hours. However, I agree, this program will create massive staffing problems at DCI. We can't afford to hire pilots who won't upgrade. A couple hundred of those pilots here, and this place will implode. We have a sever captain shortage as is, a lot of regional are now forcing upgrades.
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Old 07-17-2018, 12:26 PM
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I hate to rain on the parade but I've had concerns recommending the career to my kids mainly because technology is moving so fast I'm not sure how long aircraft will have 2 or more pilots. Anyone else have these concerns or am I out to lunch?



I completely agree. First we'll see single pilot ops at the cargo carriers. Once that's perfected, then it'll be at the pax carriers. Next will be pilotless operations with cargo. There will be firestorm lobbying efforts in congress. It won't matter; foreign airlines (Asia, ME3,etc) will have no heartburn whatsoever eliminating pilots from the cockpit as technological advancements continue to accelerate. The cry from US domestic airlines will be "Hey, we can't compete against uneven regulations!" And then poof, pilots will join the ranks of the elevator operators from the past.
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Old 07-17-2018, 12:26 PM
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This might be the first step towards ab-initio programs like the Asian carriers. Career training contracts and Delta could control a potential pilot's entire training process. Maybe it's too expensive at this point.

Has there ever been any talk of a tuition reimbursement program through the legacies? I seem to remember FedEx having something like that for ground employees.
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Old 07-17-2018, 12:34 PM
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This might be the first step towards ab-initio programs like the Asian carriers. Career training contracts and Delta could control a potential pilot's entire training process. Maybe it's too expensive at this point.

Has there ever been any talk of a tuition reimbursement program through the legacies? I seem to remember FedEx having something like that for ground employees.
Maybe Delta could loan its future pilots the tuition, and they pay it back at 14% interest over the course of their career.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
A current new hire at Endeavor might be waiting up to 10 years for the DGI, since there is an upgrade requirement. Most of the Captains here have already been rejected in the SSP, and are stuck.
Citation needed. Last I heard upgrades are pretty well at getting the minimum total time there.

If you do the Delta interview, you should go straight to Delta IMHO. Creating a system where new hires are ahead of DGI pilots that haven't yet interviewed, is a mistake.
I'm sure there will be more to this program going forward to clean it up.

Originally Posted by vyperdriver View Post
It's not a lack of interest in aviation, it's a freaking economic one. The lack of scholarship or grants etc. has put this career nearly out of reach. When it costs nearly the same to go through medical school or Vet school as it does to be a pilot...i.e. $235k+ and then you get paid a whole $40k, best case scenario vs what a Doc makes after their school... well, there you go.
I'm not aware of any regionals paying even $40k first year anymore.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:33 PM
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Citation needed. Last I heard upgrades are pretty well at getting the minimum total time there.
There are almost 2,000 pilots currently at Endeavor and Delta will only hire at maximum 180 per year the rest will likely sit in a queue like the SSP candidates.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Baradium View Post

I'm not aware of any regionals paying even $40k first year anymore.
I made 60k first year with the old payrates and the bonus at Endeavor.
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Originally Posted by 42jeff View Post
I made 60k first year with the old payrates and the bonus at Endeavor.
It was poor wording, I mean the pay is better than $40k
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