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Old 10-12-2018, 03:44 PM
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Captain JG says this latest one was unintentional... that's a refreshing change!
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Old 10-12-2018, 05:38 PM
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Captain JG says this latest one was unintentional... that's a refreshing change!
They have the software to maximize credit down to the minute...but can over look JV partner flights? Hmmm


Is refreshing to see them admit fault, would have been more genuine if it was before the MEC Chariman told the pilot group.
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They have the software to maximize credit down to the minute...but can over look JV partner flights? Hmmm


Is refreshing to see them admit fault, would have been more genuine if it was before the MEC Chariman told the pilot group.
Can you imagine if management beat the MEC informing us of a scope violation? There would have been outrage from all the usual anti-mec usuals.
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Old 10-13-2018, 10:40 AM
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Can you imagine if management beat the MEC informing us of a scope violation?
LOL right.

IMO scope violations on any scale are severe and warrant the strongest remedies we can get. Immediate cease and desist, and punitive re-balancing in our favor are the only things that will stop it.

There's no chance this was "unintentional", unless we equate a complete lack of regard about one of, if not the, most fundamental aspects of a PWA as lack of intent.
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Soooooo, what’s the remedy/consequence?

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I don’t want to give too much credit but I find the timing of this “discovery” shortly after the board found against the company last week (or whenever it was) and whatever the statement about future violations to be interesting...
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Soooooo, what’s the remedy/consequence?

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Should be pay for the flights and punitive amount equal to the savings for not operating additional flights to be compliant plus a pro-rata amount of the revenue generated by the JV. We need to tie this to the JV revenue and cost savings to have an effective deterrent. The cost needs to exceed the benefit of not operating in compliance.
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Originally Posted by TED74 View Post
Captain JG says this latest one was unintentional... that's a refreshing change!
Well that is nice. What is the violation?
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Old 10-13-2018, 03:25 PM
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Well that is nice. What is the violation?
Don’t you have email?

-The Korean Air/Delta JV went into effect on May 1, 2018
-Section 1 E.8. compliance under the Korean/Delta JV was measured for the first time at the end of July (covering the May/June/July measurement period)
-Delta's block hours between the US and Korea appear to be in compliance with Section 1 E.8.
-Delta's block hours between the US and Japan, which must also comply with Section 1 E.8., are out of compliance for the JV's first two three-month measurement periods
-Delta's US-Japan flying for each of those measurement periods appears to be deficient by approximately 2000 block hours
-A deficiency of that magnitude equates to the loss of roughly one long-haul Delta widebody round-trip per day
-This violation is the fifth significant scope-related violation by the Company in less than a year, with even more occurances prior to that timeframe
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Originally Posted by tunes View Post
Don’t you have email?

-The Korean Air/Delta JV went into effect on May 1, 2018
-Section 1 E.8. compliance under the Korean/Delta JV was measured for the first time at the end of July (covering the May/June/July measurement period)
-Delta's block hours between the US and Korea appear to be in compliance with Section 1 E.8.
-Delta's block hours between the US and Japan, which must also comply with Section 1 E.8., are out of compliance for the JV's first two three-month measurement periods
-Delta's US-Japan flying for each of those measurement periods appears to be deficient by approximately 2000 block hours
-A deficiency of that magnitude equates to the loss of roughly one long-haul Delta widebody round-trip per day
-This violation is the fifth significant scope-related violation by the Company in less than a year, with even more occurances prior to that timeframe
I don't hang on every email that comes from DALPA. Sorry. Call me ig'nant if you'd like, but I would venture that a lot of people don't either. But thank you for the update.
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