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Old 10-21-2018, 06:13 PM
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Does anyone have any education on the PIlot Activity Statements?

Why does GS pay still only show straight pay of trip? So its a 2 day (10.30 but double so 21hrs) but still only equals 10.30? When multiplied by payrate on the colum with total of all trips etc. Does the double time get put in with the aircraft table?
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Old 10-22-2018, 06:50 AM
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Does anyone have any education on the PIlot Activity Statements?

Why does GS pay still only show straight pay of trip? So its a 2 day (10.30 but double so 21hrs) but still only equals 10.30? When multiplied by payrate on the colum with total of all trips etc. Does the double time get put in with the aircraft table?
I use the PAS for flight-time logging only.

I use the timecard to keep an eye on them.
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Milk Man View Post
Does anyone have any education on the PIlot Activity Statements?

Why does GS pay still only show straight pay of trip? So its a 2 day (10.30 but double so 21hrs) but still only equals 10.30? When multiplied by payrate on the colum with total of all trips etc. Does the double time get put in with the aircraft table?
Assuming its a line holder GS, it still technically only pays the hours of the trip. Its the rate that's doubled...maybe. There's also the issue of the trigger. Not everyone is above it for the entire GS. You could be below for the entire amount, or split so some is above and some is below. Then that can change either way based off of bank decisions as well as what else happens that month. I don't think anyone is interested in trying to craft an IT system that tracks that real time just to come up with a fractional amount to double to correlate with pay.

Like someone else said, there are other places to check and make sure you're paid correctly. I would like to see DALPA come up with a 100% double check system for every GS and RR automatically. I think the company (inadvertently) makes millions off of "deny deny deny" when even a small percentage of pilots don't notice a mistake especially with short notice, uncommon events coupled with Byzantine rabbit hole contract language.
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Assuming its a line holder GS, it still technically only pays the hours of the trip. Its the rate that's doubled...maybe. There's also the issue of the trigger. Not everyone is above it for the entire GS. You could be below for the entire amount, or split so some is above and some is below. Then that can change either way based off of bank decisions as well as what else happens that month. I don't think anyone is interested in trying to craft an IT system that tracks that real time just to come up with a fractional amount to double to correlate with pay.

Like someone else said, there are other places to check and make sure you're paid correctly. I would like to see DALPA come up with a 100% double check system for every GS and RR automatically. I think the company (inadvertently) makes millions off of "deny deny deny" when even a small percentage of pilots don't notice a mistake especially with short notice, uncommon events coupled with Byzantine rabbit hole contract language.
Thanks, Gloopy. Yeah I was above the trigger, but once I did all the math it came out correctly. Just makes me wonder if this is something I need to keep extra vigilance on.
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I use the PAS for flight-time logging only.

I use the timecard to keep an eye on them.
Have you had problems in past where time card off due to GS? Or is it pretty accurate?
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Have you had problems in past where time card off due to GS? Or is it pretty accurate?
Always accurate. It's reroutes that are a convoluted mess.
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Thanks, Gloopy. Yeah I was above the trigger, but once I did all the math it came out correctly. Just makes me wonder if this is something I need to keep extra vigilance on.
In over 30 years I have never had a GS paid incorrectly. RR’s however are always a potential issue.
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Originally Posted by Milk Man View Post
Does anyone have any education on the PIlot Activity Statements?

Why does GS pay still only show straight pay of trip? So its a 2 day (10.30 but double so 21hrs) but still only equals 10.30? When multiplied by payrate on the colum with total of all trips etc. Does the double time get put in with the aircraft table?
You'll see your trip paid out at 10:30 and you'll see GS paid out at 10:30. Add those two together for your 21:00 pay for the trip.
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Keep an eye on your bank too. When I came back from mil leave, it mysteriously zeroed out. An email to ALPA Skeds fixed it quickly.
Additionally, if you are below the hours trigger, you can use your bank to fill up to the trigger so you get your GS paid in full instead of single rate til full. Just be sure to execute the bank request NLT the last day of the bid period.
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In over 30 years I have never had a GS paid incorrectly. RR’s however are always a potential issue.
They're pretty good about the pay for a garden variety GS. Its the PB days (if applicable) that can easily get messed up, particularly if its an end of the month or rolling thunder or anything to do with a partial PB day.
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