2018 Investor Day
12-13-2018, 06:45 PM
#51
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There is no need to fight amongst ourselves. We require major gains across the board.
Every Delta pilot deserves to leave with a retirement close to 60% of their final earnings. That means every Delta Pilot. Not just a few close to retirement.
Focus on what matters.
Profits are so large our executives don’t know what to do with all the money.
Each and every year they are returning 70% of free cash flow to themselves, oops I mean the shareholders.
$4 Billion annually. Major gains across the board are easily affordable.
With unity victory is certain.
Every Delta pilot deserves to leave with a retirement close to 60% of their final earnings. That means every Delta Pilot. Not just a few close to retirement.
Focus on what matters.
Profits are so large our executives don’t know what to do with all the money.
Each and every year they are returning 70% of free cash flow to themselves, oops I mean the shareholders.
$4 Billion annually. Major gains across the board are easily affordable.
With unity victory is certain.
12-13-2018, 07:19 PM
#52
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
You applied to work at Delta next to all us scumbags? Strange.
12-13-2018, 09:46 PM
#53
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I think everybody can agree that regional wages weren’t very good....to put it mildly. But it is irrelevant to the Delta Pilot group. Everybody’s path to get here was different. What path you took, whether it be military or civilian, doesn’t matter. What matters is what happens/is happening to the Delta Pilot group at DAL. The past is the past. Learn from it. Don’t necessarily repeat it.
Denny
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12-14-2018, 12:21 AM
#54
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I think everybody can agree that regional wages weren’t very good....to put it mildly. But it is irrelevant to the Delta Pilot group. Everybody’s path to get here was different. What path you took, whether it be military or civilian, doesn’t matter. What matters is what happens/is happening to the Delta Pilot group at DAL. The past is the past. Learn from it. Don’t necessarily repeat it.
Denny
Denny
The personal grievance olympics that so frequently pop up, often in response to the petty ad hominem attacks because someone wants to take extreme exception to someone else’s incomplete or ill-worded, or *gasp, misspelled arguments, is beyond ridiculous. There is too much gratuitous doichebaggery, and a lot more civility is definitely in order. There is much to be taught and learned by and from experience, and we would all do well ease off the keyboard ninja antics.
12-14-2018, 04:06 AM
#55
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I think everybody can agree that regional wages weren’t very good....to put it mildly. But it is irrelevant to the Delta Pilot group. Everybody’s path to get here was different. What path you took, whether it be military or civilian, doesn’t matter. What matters is what happens/is happening to the Delta Pilot group at DAL. The past is the past. Learn from it. Don’t necessarily repeat it.
Everyone wants something different from the contract - but it boils down to this: We want to make as much money as our brother-in-law thinks, have as much time off as our neighbors thinks we have, and we want to sleep with as many FAs as our wife thinks we are. And we want that last one to be retroactive!
(from a book written by a TWA captain years ago)
But really - improvements all over the contract help everyone. Yes, some groups want specific items, but other groups want different items. Doesn't mean one group is trying to screw the other, it's just that priorities shift over a career.
12-14-2018, 04:27 AM
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I don't really feel too good about our future going forward. This looks like a 5-6 year stalemate in the making followed by a profit sharing sized signing bonus, no retro, and raises completely insignificant in regards to lost time value of money. I've seen this play called before. It's a winner for the company and a loser for us.
12-14-2018, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I don't really feel too good about our future going forward. This looks like a 5-6 year stalemate in the making followed by a profit sharing sized signing bonus, no retro, and raises completely insignificant in regards to lost time value of money. I've seen this play called before. It's a winner for the company and a loser for us.
12-14-2018, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I agree with your assessment and I am puzzled by those who feel our retirement numbers provide leverage. The pool Delta hires from appears very stable and I doubt Delta will have any issues recruiting Pilots far into the future.
12-14-2018, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I agree with your assessment and I am puzzled by those who feel our retirement numbers provide leverage. The pool Delta hires from appears very stable and I doubt Delta will have any issues recruiting Pilots far into the future.
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