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Scoop 01-10-2019 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by bluejuice71 (Post 2740622)
Read the email. JG gives pretty good reasons why it happened.

I heard the punch card reader on the computer jammed. :)

Scoop

TransWorld 01-10-2019 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 2740701)
I heard the punch card reader on the computer jammed. :)

Scoop

Two words...Hanging Chad.

asacimesp 01-10-2019 06:37 PM

So allegedly Aeromexico reduced more flying than us and even had to cancel some routes/park airplanes.... Yet somehow we still managed to fall below contractual levels. Something just doesn’t add up.

Bucking Bar 01-10-2019 06:44 PM

If Delta wants to comply, they comply. Did with Virgin.

They don't take this Administration seriously.

MJP27 01-10-2019 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 2740741)
Please join me in the observation that despite increasing our D-MEC budget TEN FOLD for Scope Compliance and Analysis, dropping all the flying for the Chairman, and increasing the committee by 400%, passing two resolutions in ALPA's largest counsel by acclimation; Delta management is again, for the second time, telling us our scope is noncompliant.

You mean Delta Mgmt isn’t scared of our big, bad MEC?

Bucking Bar 01-10-2019 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by MJP27 (Post 2740745)
You mean Delta Mgmt isn’t scared of our big, bad MEC?

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adjective
lacking initiative or strength of character; irresponsible.
"a feckless mama's boy"
synonyms: useless, worthless, incompetent, inefficient, inept, good-for-nothing, ne'er-do-well;

notEnuf 01-10-2019 07:20 PM

Oops, sorry. It won’t happen again.

Did they not say that previously with a previous administration. Yeah it’s ALPAs fault this time. :rolleyes:

No, the compliance is more and more voluntary when it suits their purpose. Hmm. If I choose to comply at will... looks like we’re headed down that road. Sect. 6 the old fashioned way, at least they have motivation to protect the brand image now. A public spat is the best way to show shareholders “sumpin’ ain’t right” and the 1st amendment is all it takes.

Peoloto 01-10-2019 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 2740741)
If Delta wants to comply, they comply. Did with Virgin.

They don't take this Administration seriously.

And the average line pilot doesn't take you seriously so now what?

Let me guess you'll reply with something along the lines of "they should" and that we desperately need you back?

Han Solo 01-11-2019 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 2740741)
If Delta wants to comply, they comply. Did with Virgin.

They don't take this Administration seriously.

Didn't management do something similar under Donatelli? We had a full Stockholm syndrome MEC willing to carry any amount of water for management, did DAL not take them seriously either?

Trip7 01-11-2019 03:57 AM

There's a process for all this with two possible outcomes:

1. An AeroMexico JV LOA that includes a Global JV solution

2. Proceed with the Grievience process and each pilot gets awarded $200 a year from now.

IMO, if the company shifted flying from Mexico to more profitable Caribbean flying and overall block hours did not fall this violation is no big deal. Common sense says protect your global flying hours and let the company move the planes as they please.

Moreover, I believe we need more big picture thinking when it comes to our contract rather than getting wrapped up in minute details. Some pilots would blow a gasket if the contract says black pens and the company gives you a blue pen. Instead of making the company pay for cheap Bluetooth keyboards that hardly anyone will use, that time, effort and money could have negotiated a new DH LOA

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